Yamaha action with Steinway/European hammers

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Hi Brad,

I think in your case I would opt for the easiest way out and buy an =20
original set of Yamaha hammers, glued and all (complete hammer =20
assembly).
First of all it is easy and saves you a lot of extra work and time, =20
and secondly, it always works out fine.
It might be possible that you will have to move the action maybe 0,5 =20
to 1 mm to the front (in the treble), because I noticed that they =20
changed the hammer position slightly in the highest treble, or you =20
will have to take off a few hammers and re-glue them.
The hammers Richard Brekne wrote about are not available in the US, =20
and the Ronsen hammers you will have to glue yourself on the new =20
shanks you have to order as well.
Although the Yamaha hammers of today are not exactly the same as 20 =20
years ago, they are still of reasonable and predictable quality.
The final outcome depends on one's skill, of course.

friendly greetings
from
Andr=E9 Oorebeek

R. Vinkeleskade 1-3hg
1071 SN Amsterdam
The Netherlands

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and the stories I hear!



On 18-dec-2005, at 0:20, Brad Smith, RPT wrote:

> Hey,
> I'm planning to install new hammers on a 20+ year old Yamaha C3.    
> Nice
> piano, good power, just has worn out hammers and key bushings.
> The least complicated thing to do is install Yamaha hammers, and in  
> this
> case they would be 'pre-hung' from Yamaha onto new Yamaha shanks &  
> flanges.
>
> OR....
> I could install some other type of hammer, Renner, Abel, Wurzen  
> (haven't
> tried yet) or even Steinway, onto the existing shanks/flanges to go  
> after a
> different sound.
> (Knuckles are decent enough to reuse existing shanks, even though I  
> would
> rather just go with all new parts. )
>
> Question is, does anyone have insights on the benefits of putting  
> different
> hammers (i.e. non hard-pressed types) onto an
> excellent Yamaha action?   ( I love the precision of the Japanese/ 
> Yamaha,
> but I also serve several pianists who are dyed in the wool Steinway  
> people.
> who don't care for the tone of Asian hammers, even after careful- 
> balanced
> voicing).
>
> I want to offer some different options to my customer, while being  
> careful
> not to promise something I can't completely predict.
>
> I thought one possible course would be to offer them a different  
> sounding
> hammer, onto their existing shanks/flanges,
> and if we ultimately aren't satisfied with it, we could go back and  
> do the
> uncomplicated Yamaha pre-hung hammers as originally planned.
> It's a bit experimental, because I can't promise that they'll love it.
> Because of that, I would offer them that option at a reduced
> rate.   My sense is that we might really end up with an incredible  
> piano,
> with a wider dynamic range, but retaining the Japanese precision.
> With a reduced rate, I feel I am 'compensating' the customer to  
> some degree
> for taking some chances with me, on a more experimental strategy.
>
> What would you do?
> I have a good relationship with this customer, and built up trust  
> enough
> that they would stick with me through an 'experiment'.
> I always try to be as upfront as possible about what I can promise and
> predict...and what I cannot.
>
> Thanks in advance !!
>
>
> Best regards,
> Brad Smith, RPT
> www.SmithPiano.com
> <winmail.dat>
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