replacing bridge pins in the field seems like can-o-worms....do bridge pins come in a lot of different sizes? If they came like center pins, I might be more inclined to replace on occasion... David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, California ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: "Greg Newell" <gnewell@ameritech.net> To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: 12/17/2005 4:01:31 PM Subject: Re: false beats from?? >Ron and list, > If the problem is loose bridge pins, and I believe that it is, >then why not replace with an oversized pin instead of super glue. I've >never been quite happy with the lack of control over the application of >super glue as it seems to go in places where I didn't want it. Perhaps I'm >using the wrong viscosity. We replace individual tuning pins with oversize, >why not bridge pins too? >Greg >At 12:16 PM 12/17/2005, you wrote: >>>Thanks for the update on bridge pins. What is the "real cause" if it is not >>>a loose bridge pin? And would you use CA glue Ron? Or? >> >>It's still almost always a loose bridge pin. If it must be addressed, I'll >>use CA. For the most part, I work around it. I mention the problem, the >>cause, and the most affordable treatment (CA) to the owner, and let them >>decide if they want to pay for it. Most don't notice it, or particularly >>care if they do (considering that it will cost something to address), so I >>do what I can with what I have. I ignore it and tune around it as well as >>I can. What I don't do any more, is try to fool myself that I'm fixing >>anything by seating strings and bridge pins, since I've come to realize >>that I was not correcting the root cause, and was most likely doing >>further damage. The fact is that the piano needs something it's not going >>to get, and the equivalence of touching up the x-rays to deny the problem >>isn't going to do either the doctor, or the patient any good in the long run. >> >>I realize there are impossible situations, like concert and studio work, >>where SOMETHING must be done to clean up false beats. A concert instrument >>has a very short life at a high performance level anyway, so you do >>whatever you have to do to meet the performance requirements at the >>expense of longevity, and try to correct the problem more nearly >>permanently when the rebuild comes up on the wheel. Meanwhile, I see no >>reason to abuse Mrs Jones' piano trying to disguise the symptoms tuning >>after tuning while denying the reality. I understand that most of the >>technical community disagrees, but that's the way I see it. >> >>Ron N >>_______________________________________________ >>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >Greg Newell >Greg's piano Forté >mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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