false beats from??

[Greg Newell]

Ron and list,
         If  the problem is loose bridge pins, and I believe that it is, 
then why not replace with an oversized pin instead of super glue. I've 
never been quite happy with the lack of control over the application of 
super glue as it seems to go in places where I didn't want it. Perhaps I'm 
using the wrong viscosity. We replace individual tuning pins with oversize, 
why not bridge pins too?

Greg



At 12:16 PM 12/17/2005, you wrote:

>>Thanks for the update on bridge pins. What is the "real cause" if it is not
>>a loose bridge pin? And would you use CA glue Ron? Or?
>
>It's still almost always a loose bridge pin. If it must be addressed, I'll 
>use CA. For the most part, I work around it. I mention the problem, the 
>cause, and the most affordable treatment (CA) to the owner, and let them 
>decide if they want to pay for it. Most don't notice it, or particularly 
>care if they do (considering that it will cost something to address), so I 
>do what I can with what I have. I ignore it and tune around it as well as 
>I can. What I don't do any more, is try to fool myself that I'm fixing 
>anything by seating strings and bridge pins, since I've come to realize 
>that I was not correcting the root cause, and was most likely doing 
>further damage. The fact is that the piano needs something it's not going 
>to get, and the equivalence of touching up the x-rays to deny the problem 
>isn't going to do either the doctor, or the patient any good in the long run.
>
>I realize there are impossible situations, like concert and studio work, 
>where SOMETHING must be done to clean up false beats. A concert instrument 
>has a very short life at a high performance level anyway, so you do 
>whatever you have to do to meet the performance requirements at the 
>expense of longevity, and try to correct the problem more nearly 
>permanently when the rebuild comes up on the wheel. Meanwhile, I see no 
>reason to abuse Mrs Jones' piano trying to disguise the symptoms tuning 
>after tuning while denying the reality. I understand that most of the 
>technical community disagrees, but that's the way I see it.
>
>Ron N
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Greg Newell
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