Tuning time

Farrell mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
Sat, 17 Dec 2005 06:02:55 -0500


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Hi Brett. A few comments interspersed below:

Just wondering if anyone else has had this happen to them . I seem to =
have slowed down . More so on the quality instruments .=20

How long have you been servicing pianos? I've been at it about ten years =
now, and yes, I have observed the exact same thing - especially about =
five years ago. I the beginning, a nice Yamaha grand was the fastest to =
tune because it was tunable. Now, because it is tunable, I tend to spent =
more time with a piano like that, than with a hopeless spinet.

Then as I got to the lower bass another noise the keybed was knocking . =
Maybe the Dampp-Chaser system I installed last year made these things =
show up. All I know is I ended up running about an hour behind .

But I spend more time tuning for my tuning fee, not fixing false beats =
and flanges, etc.

Then this afternoon I ran into a KG-1 I tune every 3 months . New DC =
system last fall ???? wild strings 5th 6th & 7th . I ended up seating =
all the bridge pins & strings it was easier to dress all the strings & =
then tune . Then a buzzing sound from the case. Had to tighten every =
screw tell I finally happened to kick a small fan with a metal cage =
setting under the piano . Fixed it ! This piano is used for Jazz gigs , =
Now everyone will wounder why the pianist is sweating . I tossed the fan =
.Another hour behind ! I seem to be spending more time on the grands I =
tune then before . The spinets well I do my best . Even a nice U-3 or 1 =
will slow me down with one thing or another .

For me, if some repair is going to take more than five minutes or so, I =
have a chat with the piano owner and charge for it if they want it done.

Am I just hearing better ? Has my experience gotten to the point where I =
find more things that I would have missed before (most likely).

Yes, that is my observation.

 I know that most of the pianist don't hear these things . I'm also =
afraid that the ones that do feel that they got a poor tuning .=20

Especially false beats. That is one of my fears: customer will think I =
did a crappy tuning because of all the false beats. If they seem like a =
good player, or they have said something that suggests they are in some =
way sensitive to the in-tune/out-of-tune concept (not many are), I will =
sometimes point out the false beats - basically to tell them, "It's not =
my fault"!

Before I got into tuning as a player I didn't hear 90 percent of what I =
do now . And I'm sure that most people grow accustomed to what they are =
play day in & out.=20

Most likely.

They must because when I'm done with every piano I play it . Most of the =
spinets I hate . They think it sounds great . Even the little spinet I =
played for years as a kid hurts to play now . Back then it was great !=20

At what point do you decide to charge for these little extras . Or =
should you cover your tunings by fixing the little things .=20

IMHO, tuning fee is for tuning, plus maybe a five-minute freebie. After =
five minutes or so, the hourly meter starts running.

For now thats where I'm at . It sure can make you run behind though .

Thanks for the input on reselling services . I'm sure now that I'm not =
charging enough .

That's the way it sounds!

Terry Farrell

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: BRETT GLASS=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 2:25 AM
  Subject: Tuning time


  Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas to All ,

  And to Ken I'm not missing the SNOW !

  Just wondering if anyone else has had this happen to them . I seem to =
have slowed down . More so on the quality instruments . Like today I was =
tuning a customers Steinway L (1972)  for the second time . I don't =
remember it taking as long last year .  This time the 5th & 6th octives =
had so many false beats . I stoped to seat the strings & bridge pins . =
Then I got annoyed by a clicking noise on G-6 that turned out to be a =
loose hammer flange bushing .

  Then as I got to the lower bass another noise the keybed was knocking =
. Maybe the Dampp-Chaser system I installed last year made these things =
show up. All I know is I ended up running about an hour behind .

  Then this afternoon I ran into a KG-1 I tune every 3 months . New DC =
system last fall ???? wild strings 5th 6th & 7th . I ended up seating =
all the bridge pins & strings it was easier to dress all the strings & =
then tune . Then a buzzing sound from the case. Had to tighten every =
screw tell I finally happened to kick a small fan with a metal cage =
setting under the piano . Fixed it ! This piano is used for Jazz gigs , =
Now everyone will wounder why the pianist is sweating . I tossed the fan =
.Another hour behind ! I seem to be spending more time on the grands I =
tune then before . The spinets well I do my best . Even a nice U-3 or 1 =
will slow me down with one thing or another .

  Am I just hearing better ? Has my experience gotten to the point where =
I find more things that I would have missed before (most likely). I know =
that most of the pianist don't hear these things . I'm also afraid that =
the ones that do feel that they got a poor tuning . Before I got into =
tuning as a player I didn't hear 90 percent of what I do now . And I'm =
sure that most people grow accustomed to what they are play day in & =
out. They must because when I'm done with every piano I play it . Most =
of the spinets I hate . They think it sounds great . Even the little =
spinet I played for years as a kid hurts to play now . Back then it was =
great !=20

  At what point do you decide to charge for these little extras . Or =
should you cover your tunings by fixing the little things . For now =
thats where I'm at . It sure can make you run behind though .

  Thanks for the input on reselling services . I'm sure now that I'm not =
charging enough .

  Brett Glass

  A Sharp Piano Service Maui

  PS: I won't tell you how I fixed the loose bushing other than to say I =
had none with me . And most likely that flange will need to be replaced =
next time it needs to be rebushed . It was loose to the wood in the =
flange . I know the quick fix police are going to pull me over for =
speeding to the next job . Guess=20


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