John, I may have to give Ed a call here. That does sound better than all that typing. Any info about new bells and whistles? Wondering what's different, if anything. I'm existing with version 2000.10.0207 which is, I aware, quite old. What is the new version? Will he allow more access to your own info? I've wanted to make some global changes ever since I bought the program but have been locked out of the flat file aspect of it. When I came over from Piano Service Manager the info didn't come through so well and I never did all the re-typing that I should have. Thanks for taking the time to search this out! Greg Newell At 09:27 PM 12/14/2005, you wrote: >FYI, Just got off the phone w/ Ed Winslow, author of the PTBiz software. >(I actually had a good conversation with him.) > >There is a newer version of the program that has no hasp or security >codes. For previous users, the price is $150 + $15 S&H, and for new users, >the price is $300. > >After a first glance at the trial versions of Peakeware, Execukey, and >PowerTech, PTBiz is so much smoother and faster. Though it doesn't have as >many functions as the others, I wouldn't use those anyway. I can tell >already that PTBiz is far easier to learn and use than the others (don't >know about DC al Coda). For instance, I was trying to use Execukey and got >lost - and I'm a computer nut! > >I don't know that I'd expect much technical support, but Ed said he was >supporting the latest version, though he hasn't gotten many requests for >the program. However, I've never needed any support except for those darn >codes and hasps which are now no more. If the program keeps on working, I >think I'll stick with PTBiz since I like using it. It's really worth $165 >to never have to re-enter the data or re-learn another program! But I have >to say I really hate the thought of sending Ed another dime! Sure beats >$600+, though. > >John Formsma > >Greg Newell wrote: >>John, >> I've been printing invoices on the spot for years with PTBiz but >> I too am looking for a way out. You're correct that not all info will >> transfer to virtually any other program. I've bought a copy of FileMaker >> pro hoping to build my own database program but haven't quit every other >> bleeding thing in my miserable life in order to convert all my waking >> hours into becoming proficient with FileMaker pro. Whatever way I >> finally go it will be where I am beholding to no one. No dongles, no >> hasps, no software keys and no one individual responsible for the whole >> program. I'm sure the other previously mentioned programs are all quite >> good in their own way but I won't tie myself up like that again. As >> others have mentioned I am faced with transferring quite a lot of >> information and I really don't want to do it more than once. 3,000 >> clients and 21 years of invoices threatens to take quite a while. >> >>best, >>Greg >> >> >> >>At 08:01 AM 12/14/2005, you wrote: >>>Tom, >>> >>>OK, just looked at T&C. It looks like a wonderful scheduler and address >>>book program. But, it doesn't look like there's a way to do invoicing, >>>accounting, etc. >>> >>>What I'm wanting to do is use a laptop to print out an invoice at the >>>piano location. This looks more professional, plus it will elminate a >>>bunch of bookwork when I get home and don't feel like doing it. :-) Can >>>you do this with T&C? >>> >>>John Formsma >>> >>>Tom Servinsky wrote: >>>>John, >>>>Do yourself a favor and go directly to Time & Chaos. You won't pay a >>>>fortune for some out-dated software. You'll get a tech service that is >>>>out of this world. You'll get one of the most flexible and most >>>>use-friendly programs out there. And for less than $100. It also syncs >>>>with the Palm devices. <http://www.chaossoftware.com>www.chaossoftware.com >>>>I've tweaked my program for the last 3 yrs and finally have running >>>>smoothly and effectively. >>>>Oh...and I'm a recovering PTBIZ user. >>>>Tom Servinsky >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: <mailto:john@formsmapiano.com>John Formsma >>>>To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>Pianotech >>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:04 AM >>>>Subject: Piano Service Software >>>> >>>>Greetings everyone! >>>> >>>>Resubscribed recently...if this is a recently discussed topic, please >>>>forgive. >>>> >>>>Is anyone using the technician software listed on ptg.org? >>>>ExecuKey >>>>PianoDB by D C Al Coda >>>>PowerTech >>>>PeakeWare >>>> >>>>If you are a user of any of the above, is your experience favorable? >>>>Would you recommend it? >>>> >>>>I'm looking to replace PTBiz since apparently it is no longer being >>>>sold or supported. (I'd hate to think about the mess I'd be in if >>>>something happened to the program or Hasp hardware key and I couldn't >>>>retrieve my data - yikes!) >>>> >>>>Any other software out there that is user-friendly, does invoicing, >>>>reminders, and accounting, and is priced under $400.00? Am I living in >>>>"dream world"? PTBiz has done everything that I have needed. While it >>>>certainly has its quirks, I like that it's compact and doesn't have all >>>>the "bells and whistles" that I don't really need. >>>> >>>>It seems to make sense to look toward a program that will allow data to >>>>be easily transferred into other programs, such as MS Access (or >>>>another popular database). That way, if a program becomes obsolete for >>>>whatever reason, one doesn't have to re-type all the data into the new >>>>program. >>>> >>>>Any ideas? >>>> >>>>Thanks, >>>>John Formsma >>> >>>Greg Newell >>>Greg's piano Forté >>><mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net>mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net >> >>_______________________________________________ >>pianotech list info: >><https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives>https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> >> > >Greg Newell >Greg's piano Forté >mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net
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