>>In other words, the smaller the hardness number the harder the steel. Ooops. That's backwards. A softer material will have a bigger diameter dent and a smaller hardness number. A harder material will have a smaller dent and a bigger hardness number. I am suspect of the numbers you are quoting, Ron. The little research I'm doing shows Vickers hardness of mild steel at 140, Hardened steel at 900, and titanium at 970. Then on an ask the experts site someone asked the hardness ranking of various metals. Here is the answer: In General- and I have to qualify that by saying I'm considering the metals to be in the annealed condition, the aluminum is 1100 alloy, the T6 (not annealed, but age hardened) aluminum is a 2000 or 7000 series alloy, and the titanium is 6Al-4V alloy rather than the commercially pure stuff (6-4 is a lot more common than CP)- the order would be aluminum, brass, bronze, T6 aluminum, mild steel, stainless steel, and titanium. If the metals are in their hardest conditions, from heat treating or cold work, the order would be aluminum, brass, T6 aluminum, bronze, titanium, mild steel, and stainless steel (cutlery grades). (http://experts.about.com/q/2280/1021526.htm) Dean Dean May cell 812.239.3359 PianoRebuilders.com 812.235.5272 Terre Haute IN 47802 -----Original Message----- From: Dean May [mailto:deanmay@pianorebuilders.com] Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:29 PM To: 'Pianotech' Subject: RE: Bridge Pins, was Bridge Capping Materials: Ebony? Hardness in steel is tested by machines that try to put a dent in it. The bigger the dent, the softer the steel. The hardness number given is inversely proportional to the diameter of the dent left in the steel. Check out http://www.gordonengland.co.uk/hardness/vickers.htm Dean Dean May cell 812.239.3359 PianoRebuilders.com 812.235.5272 Terre Haute IN 47802 -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ron Nossaman Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 5:41 PM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Bridge Pins, was Bridge Capping Materials: Ebony? > Titanium probably does resist grooving better that what is > usually used for bridge pins. I find a Vickers hardness of 60 for titanium, and 98 for mild steel. Why would titanium "probably" resist grooving better when it's a softer material? > I've thought about stainless, is it > harder than what we usually use? Any other improvements to consider? Go here. http://www.matweb.com/search/search.asp Prospect to your heart's content. Ron N _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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