This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I have no doubt that PianoDisc has good certified installers and maybe = even a good warranty - but I doubt they'll want to do much warranty work = for a QRS Pianomation player unit. However, you gave me an idea - if = they lady had the unit installed within the past year, she really should = call the installer and request they s/he do the repair at no charge = (unless she told them not to do it to save a few $$ - which I doubt). Good idea. Thanks. Terry Farrell ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dean May=20 This poor lady shouldn't have to pay for it. PianoDisc requires all of = their certified installers to keep all of the pedals working. Whatever = dealer had the system installed is required to use certified installers = (though some of them don't). The dealer should pay you (he made all the = profit). If he refuses take it to PianoDisc and they can put the heat on = the dealer.=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of Farrell =20 Oh man, you are about as close as you can get without being exactly = correct. I think you are so warm here that if you were at the piano you = would have it nailed within seconds. Dave, I think you need to get = credit for solving the problem! =20 I thought of your suggestion and checked it out. It appeared that the = shift lever poked up from the top of the keybed an appropriate height so = that it should contact the keybed just fine. So it wasn't that it was = too low. =20 So the next thing I tried was to pull the keyframe out toward the = pianist an inch or two. When you had the keyframe out to the front edge = of the keybed, everything worked just fine: push pedal down and keyframe = slides over to the right in the normal manner. =20 Obviously, having the keyframe hanging off the front edge of the = keybed is not too great - strikepoints and all that. So, the real = trouble then was to figure out how to move the plate forward that inch = or two.......... okay, just kidding. =20 I noticed that the hole that the una-corda lever goes through in the = keybed was not round like most - it was oval and a couple inches long. I = crawled under the piano again to see what was going on. And there I saw = it. Of course, the una-corda lever is very close to the metal case for = the player system under the keybed. I saw two abandoned screw holes and = inch away from the screws that were holding the brackets for the = una-corda lever in place. =20 Apparently the installer of the Pianomation player system moved the = una-corda pedal an inch forward to clear the player system box. In that = position, the lever does not engage the keyframe. And either the dude = (or dudette) just forgot to try the pedal to see if it worked or took a = shortcut and hoped the player wouldn't use the pedal. =20 So now she wants it fixed. My thought is to rout out a small area of = partial thickness (maybe a quarter inch or so) on bottom of the middle = board of the keyframe (the one that has the center rail mounted on it - = the rear rail is already routed out for the place where the una-corda = pedal used to engage the keyframe. Then install a hunk of hard maple = that would run from the middle board to the rear board on the keyframe. = Keep the maple hunk maybe a half-inch thick or so - keep it flush with = the bottom of the other two keyframe boards (not too high, not too low). = Position it correctly so that the una-corda lever will engage it, put a = strip of leather on the correct edge, charge the owner a handsome but = fair fee (couple hundred bucks), and then smile when she praises the = wonderful job I did (and then smile again when I cash her check). =20 Or is there a better fix for this? =20 Terry Farrell =20 Off for my Saturday morning 60-mile hurricane bike ride! That long = eastern leg should be fun with 30 mph winds out of the east predicted! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Piannaman@aol.com=20 =20 A wild guess, based on a previous frustrating experience. =20 The shift lever is not contacting with the keyframe at alll because = the blocks that hold it in place on the bottom of the piano sit too far = above (below, really) the surface to which they are attached, which puts = the keyframe out of reach. Installers of disc systems sometimes do = funny things to get pedals out of the way of various contraptions down = there. =20 Dave S. =20 In a message dated 8/26/05 6:07:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, = mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com writes: =20 Okay, here is my first (and likely lame) contribution to the = daily mystery question. =20 About 1980 Kawai KG-2S - about 5' 10" - very good to excellent = condition. Lady bought it used one year ago (she paid $3,500 for it - = perfect satin cherry case - she got a great deal!). During that first = year she had a QRS Pianomation player system installed on the piano. We = had set up a service appointment for cleaning the interior, tuning and = looking at a "loose" pedal. =20 The left (una-corda) pedal was just hanging down. I crawled = under piano to check levers, etc. Everything with the una-corda under = the keybed appeared to be functioning just fine. Adjustment appears good = (in that, when the pedal travels down, the lever moves sideways in the = keybed). However, when you depress the left pedal the action frame did = not slide over to the right. The keyframe was resting on the left felted = keyframe stop. The action slid in and out easily. It was as if the = una-corda lever system was not hooked up to the action frame. =20 What was the cause of the non-functioning una-corda pedal? =20 (This is probably too easy - however, it did take me a good 10 = or 15 minutes to fully figure it out.) =20 Terry Farrell =20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/cc/3c/c1/38/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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