This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment This poor lady shouldn't have to pay for it. PianoDisc requires all of their certified installers to keep all of the pedals working. Whatever dealer had the system installed is required to use certified installers (though some of them don't). The dealer should pay you (he made all the profit). If he refuses take it to PianoDisc and they can put the heat on the dealer. There has only been a couple of times I didn't hook up one or two pedals. But it was done with the full consent of the customer. They wanted the system and there was no way to do it without extensive modifications and cost. Dean Dean May cell 812.239.3359 PianoRebuilders.com 812.235.5272 Terre Haute IN 47802 -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Farrell Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 5:01 AM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Una-Corda Mystery Oh man, you are about as close as you can get without being exactly correct. I think you are so warm here that if you were at the piano you would have it nailed within seconds. Dave, I think you need to get credit for solving the problem! I thought of your suggestion and checked it out. It appeared that the shift lever poked up from the top of the keybed an appropriate height so that it should contact the keybed just fine. So it wasn't that it was too low. So the next thing I tried was to pull the keyframe out toward the pianist an inch or two. When you had the keyframe out to the front edge of the keybed, everything worked just fine: push pedal down and keyframe slides over to the right in the normal manner. Obviously, having the keyframe hanging off the front edge of the keybed is not too great - strikepoints and all that. So, the real trouble then was to figure out how to move the plate forward that inch or two.......... okay, just kidding. I noticed that the hole that the una-corda lever goes through in the keybed was not round like most - it was oval and a couple inches long. I crawled under the piano again to see what was going on. And there I saw it. Of course, the una-corda lever is very close to the metal case for the player system under the keybed. I saw two abandoned screw holes and inch away from the screws that were holding the brackets for the una-corda lever in place. Apparently the installer of the Pianomation player system moved the una-corda pedal an inch forward to clear the player system box. In that position, the lever does not engage the keyframe. And either the dude (or dudette) just forgot to try the pedal to see if it worked or took a shortcut and hoped the player wouldn't use the pedal. So now she wants it fixed. My thought is to rout out a small area of partial thickness (maybe a quarter inch or so) on bottom of the middle board of the keyframe (the one that has the center rail mounted on it - the rear rail is already routed out for the place where the una-corda pedal used to engage the keyframe. Then install a hunk of hard maple that would run from the middle board to the rear board on the keyframe. Keep the maple hunk maybe a half-inch thick or so - keep it flush with the bottom of the other two keyframe boards (not too high, not too low). Position it correctly so that the una-corda lever will engage it, put a strip of leather on the correct edge, charge the owner a handsome but fair fee (couple hundred bucks), and then smile when she praises the wonderful job I did (and then smile again when I cash her check). Or is there a better fix for this? Terry Farrell Off for my Saturday morning 60-mile hurricane bike ride! That long eastern leg should be fun with 30 mph winds out of the east predicted! ----- Original Message ----- From: Piannaman@aol.com A wild guess, based on a previous frustrating experience. The shift lever is not contacting with the keyframe at alll because the blocks that hold it in place on the bottom of the piano sit too far above (below, really) the surface to which they are attached, which puts the keyframe out of reach. Installers of disc systems sometimes do funny things to get pedals out of the way of various contraptions down there. Dave S. In a message dated 8/26/05 6:07:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com writes: Okay, here is my first (and likely lame) contribution to the daily mystery question. About 1980 Kawai KG-2S - about 5' 10" - very good to excellent condition. Lady bought it used one year ago (she paid $3,500 for it - perfect satin cherry case - she got a great deal!). During that first year she had a QRS Pianomation player system installed on the piano. We had set up a service appointment for cleaning the interior, tuning and looking at a "loose" pedal. The left (una-corda) pedal was just hanging down. I crawled under piano to check levers, etc. Everything with the una-corda under the keybed appeared to be functioning just fine. Adjustment appears good (in that, when the pedal travels down, the lever moves sideways in the keybed). However, when you depress the left pedal the action frame did not slide over to the right. The keyframe was resting on the left felted keyframe stop. The action slid in and out easily. It was as if the una-corda lever system was not hooked up to the action frame. What was the cause of the non-functioning una-corda pedal? (This is probably too easy - however, it did take me a good 10 or 15 minutes to fully figure it out.) Terry Farrell ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/d0/4f/fc/86/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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