This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment >>Actually, I spend longer than that on most pitch corrections and find that the fine tuning then takes less time for me. I'll ditto that. I spend about 40-60 minutes on a PR and 10-15 on a second pass. I don't try to get it too fine. What's the point? It won't hold if I do. Tell them to expect it to not be a fine tuning and for it to go out quicker than normal. Then sell them on the second tuning. I picked up the tip from someone on the list to go ahead and schedule the next tuning in a month to get it stabilized in 6-8 weeks. I'm amazed at peoples' willingness to do that. I did a major PR last week (-230 cents) in about 70 minutes. At first the customer balked at my price (almost double my normal rate). Instead of trying to justify it in a very nice way I said she could probably find somebody to do it cheaper. She had me do it, obviously. It really helps to have the attitude that you are willing to walk away from the job. I would have even been willing to supply her with a couple of names that would do it cheaper, but it didn't come to that. Dean Dean May cell 812.239.3359 PianoRebuilders.com 812.235.5272 Terre Haute IN 47802 -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Alan Barnard Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 2:30 PM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Differences Between Pitch Raise and Fine Tuning? Whether you use an ETD or tune aural, you just do it fast and, depending where the piano pitch is, you tune a little sharp or a little flat. There are various fomulas for calculating pitch and ETDs have built-in programs to do it. You DO tune every string but you DON'T spend a long time doing it, trying to get every unison clean, etc. After awhile, you'll get where you can do it in about that much time. Practice practice practice .... and DON'T linger on any string trying to get it just right. Focus, concentrate, and MOVE. If you are a perfectionist this will cure you or drive you over the edge! Actually, I spend longer than that on most pitch corrections and find that the fine tuning then takes less time for me. My choice. If the move is maybe 20 cents or more, I'll do at least one fast pass, then a more careful pass, then fine tune. Sounds like a lot of work BUT it is better for your sanity and produces a better result than trying to fine tune any piano that is more than a few cents off. And, depending on the situation, I definitely CHARGE for this extra work. This--and other unknowns--is way I try to ALWAYS schedule pianos I am seeing for the first time either last in the day or at some time when I can be there longer. Hope it helps. Reblitz is great overview of the whole field but is pretty skimpy for learning tuning. You need other sources and, hopefully, a GOOD tunor who will mentor you or at least show you how it's done. If you are not in the guild and attending an active chapter's meetings, REPENT. Alan Barnard Salem, MO -----Original Message----- From: Robert Finley Sent: Aug 20, 2005 2:06 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Differences Between Pitch Raise and Fine Tuning? I have been reading the Reblitz book and have a question about raising the pitch of a piano that has gone flat. On page 231 it says a pitch raise is a fast rough tuning, and one shouldn't spend more than about 20 minutes doing this. My question is what can you do in 20 minutes, and how does this "rough tuning" differ from a regular/fine tuning? Do you set the temperament, tune octaves up and down the piano, tune unisons, or what? If that is so, I don't see how all that can be done in only 20 minutes. Thank you for your help. Robert Finley Salem, Missouri ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/a9/81/44/7d/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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