This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi Robert, I will be the different one perhaps. If the piano is 25 cents or less flat average pitch, usually it is a one = pass pitch raise that takes me about 50 minutes followed by touchup of = either the bass or tenor 10 minutes tops depending on what will make the = piano sound good. If the piano is local 30 miles one way, = stickvillehere, an apointment for a month to do string seating of top = treble and fine tune. Further away seating and fine tune . I am aiming to be arround 0 to 3 cents sharp or flat of 440, I would = rather the sharp, as I find that just bumping the pin, in most cases, = with the hammer on the pin will settle the pitch to where it is very = stable. Due to string breakage posibilities, 30 and larger to 100 cents takes me = two raises, dont see much larger raises but every once in a while the = 170 raise is needed, but most of those are pianos that NEED condemed due = to other problems. Every time I have tried the blind pitch raise idea I have ended up being = at that piano for hours <O:(((( So being a very lazy person------ BTW I use a SATlll. One idea for you, is to force yourself to not fixate on the perfection = of the unison in pitch raises, to develop your speed in fine tuning. Do = listen to what is going on but, join "move on . org" <G> Joe Goss RPT Mother Goose Tools imatunr@srvinet.com www.mothergoosetools.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alan Barnard=20 To: Pianotech=20 Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 1:29 PM Subject: Re: Differences Between Pitch Raise and Fine Tuning? Whether you use an ETD or tune aural, you just do it fast and, = depending where the piano pitch is, you tune a little sharp or a little = flat. There are various fomulas for calculating pitch and ETDs have = built-in programs to do it. You DO tune every string but you DON'T spend = a long time doing it, trying to get every unison clean, etc. After awhile, you'll get where you can do it in about that much time. = Practice practice practice .... and DON'T linger on any string trying to = get it just right. Focus, concentrate, and MOVE. If you are a = perfectionist this will cure you or drive you over the edge! Actually, I spend longer than that on most pitch corrections and find = that the fine tuning then takes less time for me. My choice. If the move = is maybe 20 cents or more, I'll do at least one fast pass, then a more = careful pass, then fine tune. Sounds like a lot of work BUT it is better for your sanity and = produces a better result than trying to fine tune any piano that is more = than a few cents off. And, depending on the situation, I definitely = CHARGE for this extra work. This--and other unknowns--is way I try to = ALWAYS schedule pianos I am seeing for the first time either last in the = day or at some time when I can be there longer. Hope it helps. Reblitz is great overview of the whole field but is = pretty skimpy for learning tuning. You need other sources and, = hopefully, a GOOD tunor who will mentor you or at least show you how = it's done. If you are not in the guild and attending an active chapter's = meetings, REPENT. Alan Barnard Salem, MO -----Original Message-----=20 From: Robert Finley=20 Sent: Aug 20, 2005 2:06 PM=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Subject: Differences Between Pitch Raise and Fine Tuning?=20 I have been reading the Reblitz book and have a question about raising = the pitch of a piano that has gone flat. On page 231 it says a pitch = raise is a fast rough tuning, and one shouldn't spend more than about 20 = minutes doing this. My question is what can you do in 20 minutes, and = how does this "rough tuning" differ from a regular/fine tuning? Do you = set the temperament, tune octaves up and down the piano, tune unisons, = or what? If that is so, I don't see how all that can be done in only 20 = minutes. Thank you for your help. Robert Finley Salem, Missouri ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/ef/c4/2f/4f/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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