Practicing on a not so good piano: was RE: tax deductions?

Carl Meyer cmpiano@comcast.net
Sat, 25 Sep 2004 09:41:15 -0700


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To Ryan and Richard:  Not only is BS not pure, it's not in short supply.

You see, I recognize BS by sight, sound and smell. Those three senses =
should be enough without using others. I have a patent on a BS filter =
that I  keep turned on high especially when I read the list or am in a =
Doctors office.  BS can be contaminated with political crap.  Even if it =
is non-partisan.

You can't eliminate BS by shooting the bull.

Carl Meyer Ptg assoc
Santa Clara, Ca.

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ryan Sowers=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:13 PM
  Subject: Re: Practicing on a not so good piano: was RE: tax =
deductions?


  How do you know? Do you have some unusual hobbies that you would like =
to share with us?

  Carl Meyer <cmpiano@comcast.net> wrote:=20
    I disagree. BS in not pure.

    Carl Meyer Ptg assoc
    Santa Clara, Ca.
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: David Love=20
      To: 'Pianotech'=20
      Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 4:53 PM
      Subject: Practicing on a not so good piano: was RE: tax =
deductions?


      I would say that the idea that practicing on a not so great piano =
makes you a better pianist is at least counterintuitive, at most, pure =
BS.  Much of learning and refining piano skills has to do with =
developing your sense of hearing and connecting what your hands do to =
what your ears hear.  It is not, afterall, the same as learning to type. =
 The poorer the piano, the more you learn to not listen, to ignore what =
you hear and therefore surrender control over what you are trying to =
accomplish musically.  Wondering whether the mechanical problems you are =
encountering in executing a difficult passage belong to your fingers or =
the action can o! nly serve to confuse the issue more and force you into =
some bad habits with respect to relaxation that will not serve your =
technique or tone production at all.   And as far as advocating poorer =
pianos for our adult piano students to improve their technique.well that =
would be counterproductive.  Remember, critical thinking is a privilege, =
not a right.  You have to earn it. =20

      =20

      David Love
      davidlovepianos@comcast.net=20

      -----Original Message-----
      From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] =
On Behalf Of Avery Todd
      Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:51 PM
      To: Pianotech
      Subject: Re: tax deductions?

      =20

      Bull hockey!=20

      Avery=20

      At 09:23 PM 9/23/04, you wrote:



      Richard said:
      =20
      "I tell them that children and or adults will practice more and =
can get much more from the practice with a good piano."
      =20
      That is only good to a certain extent.  After the kid, or adult =
progresses to a certain level, it will be more beneficial to practice on =
a not so great piano.  It can do many great wonders to piano technique.
      Matthew


      Richard Oliver Snelson <rsnelson0984@mchsi.com> wrote:

      That's not what Ryan said, Mr. Hechler. Too bad about your nerve, =
must be=20

      the same one you often hit when your past rants about M.S.

      I will do exactly what Ryan said also. Finding a junk spinet or =
console in=20

      a nice home with an older child or younger taking serious lessons =
on it will=20

      bring on a discussion with the mother or father. I don't care if =
they ever=20

      call me back to tune for them. I tell them that children and or =
adults will=20

      practice more and can get much more from the practice with a good =
piano. I=20

      have never had anyone get mad at me, they say wow! No one has had =
the nerve=20

      to be honest with us about the piano. After all someone gave it =
too us and=20

      we really thought it would be nice to have a better piano for our=20

      son/daughter to play. Note I didn't say "Grand." And I never =
follow the=20

      above discussion with the fact that I might h! ave used pianos for =
sale.

      Play your antique piano all you want Mr. Hechler I'll keep on =
enjoying my=20

      grand piano and having the pleasure of going back to my customers =
house when=20

      they call to say they purchased a better piano.

      Why should Ryan keep his statement to himself? You never follow =
that advice.=20

      Now do you?

      Richard Oliver Snelson

      ----- Original Message -----=20

      From: "Hechler Family"=20

      To: "Pianotech"=20

      Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:12 PM

      Subject: Re: tax deductions?



      > Ryan,

      >

      > Boy have you hit a major nerve with me.

      >

      > Based on your comment, everyone should upgrade to a grand. =
Nearly 99=20

      > percent of my business is the pianos you mentioned below. If =
which 99=20

      > percent have no space for a grand or don't want a grand. And to =
top things=20

      > off, I own an antique player piano which is a Story & Clark =
which I feel=20

      > is a g! ood quality instrument. Finally, I also rebuild antique =
pump organs=20

      > which are not upgradeable.

      >

      > So please keep your blanket statements to yourself.

      >

      > P.S. I recently acquired a player piano rebuilt job for a =
Gulbransen=20

      > piano.

      >

      > Ryan Sowers wrote:

      >

      >=20

      >

      >> Very frequently I am encouraging people to upgrade their =
spinet,=20

      >> consoles, and worn-out uprights. How could I do this in good =
faith if I=20

      >> don't personally value the instrument enough to warrant owning =
a good=20

      >> quality one.

      >

      > --=20

      > Duaine Hechler

      > Piano, Player Piano, Organ, Pump Organ

      > Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding

      > Associate Member of the Piano Technicians Guild

      > Reed Organ Society Member

      > St. Louis, MO 63034

      > (314) 838-5587

      > dahechler@charter.net

      >

      > _______________________________________________

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