Fwd: Big hammers

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In a message dated 8/31/2004 9:20:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,  
hgreeley@stanford.edu writes:


Hi,  Dale, 

I'm having trouble posting to pianotech tonight.  Would you  please forward 
this along?

Thanks very  much.

Best.

Horace




Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 20:20:40  -0700
To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
From: Horace Greeley  <hgreeley@stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: Big hammers


Hi,  

At 07:10 PM 8/31/2004, you wrote:

I guess I'm showing my  ignorance but what are you talking about? 

I'm not sure,  Avery.  From the few that we can see, these actually look like 
pretty  workable hammers, to me....I've certainly seen much, much worse in  
day-to-day use on concert instruments in "name" venues.

Barb - I  would be more concerned about overall action geometry that the size 
of the  hammers at this point.  Those knuckles look a bit close to the flange 
 pin.  Also, looking at the backchecks, this is a pre-'87 instrument  (for 
_me_, this is a GOOD THING!...largely because of the significantly  larger range 
of regulation possible...long subject and I am not looking to  start a 
discussion)...being of that vintage, you are also going to want to  check not only 
action spread, but also deck height from the keybed to the CP  of each of the 
whippen and hammer flanges.  Try to carefully assess  what was actually done at 
the factory, and what has been done since  then...looking especially to see 
if there has been a change in the material  under the back rail cloth.  
Usually, this would have had a layer of red  key felt, often on top of one or 
(sometimes, but not often) two layers of  what amounts to manila card stock (this 
latter usually dark brown in  color).  Also, check to see when/if anyone has 
replaced the balance  rail pivots; and/or the front rail (felt) punchings.  etc.

In  other words, before doing _anything_ try to get a very solid idea of what 
it  is you are looking at.  Then, work backwards.  As someone  (Andre?  
Isaac? sorry) noted, sometimes (even often) "just" a good,  solid regulation will 
do more for tone and projection than even many  technicians will believe.

So, after all that, those look like S&S  hammers; and, from what little can 
be seen of them, they look as if they are  fairly well molded and shaped...so, 
look elsewhere before simply throwing  them out and starting  elsewhere.

Best.

Horace




Avery 

At 12:23 PM  8/31/04, you wrote:

Jimminees Chrasmus.... look  at those knuckle cores... that HAD to be done 
willfully... .. or maybe  its just the picture is a bit distorted...
RicB


Barbara  Richmond wrote:

Thanks for all  your wonderful suggestions, everyone!

For your pleasure, I found this picture that I took of the  action last 
spring.  As you can see, it has some obvious  issues--like, when it was having 
trouble, nobody bothered to regulate  it!  :-)   

Well, I'm  off to put some new casters on a church piano.   Later!

Barbara Richmond,  RPT









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