Cracked Lid

[Farrell]

Good: West System 2-step wet-out epoxy repair prodedure.

Better: West System 2-step wet-out epoxy repair prodedure plus new veneers.

Best: Replace lid.

Terry Farrell

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Hull" <hullfam5@yahoo.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: Cracked Lid


> Along the same line, I have a customer with an antique
> grand (Erard) about 8', and the lid is cracked
> lengthwise down the middle.   Before anything can be
> done, including tuning, repair of the lid needs to
> take place because it may split completely if put up
> on a stick. 
> 
> I'm trying to decide how to proceed.
> 
> Bob Hull
> 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net>
> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 7:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: Cracked Lid
> > 
> > 
> > > On long grands where the lid has been kept mostly
> > in the up position you
> > can
> > > imagine the stress, over the years it put on the
> > glue joints on the long
> > > core panels glued together for the lid with only
> > support on one end and
> > the
> > > other just kind of hanging out there.  It is a
> > wonder that we do not seem
> > > more of this in anything over 6'.  I do not know
> > if they used any special
> > > types of joint between the boards or if they were
> > all just edge glued.
> > Any
> > > one tore one apart to see.?
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > James Grebe
> > > Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair
> > > Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups
> > > (314) 608-4137
> > > WWW.JamesGrebe.com
> > > 1526 Raspberry Lane
> > > Arnold, MO 63010
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> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Paul Chick (Earthlink)"
> > <tune4@earthlink.net>
> > > To: "Pianotech@Ptg.Org" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:05 PM
> > > Subject: Cracked Lid
> > >
> > >
> > > > List readers:
> > > >
> > > > I inspected a recently refinished mahogany
> > veneered lid for a 1901
> > > > Steinway
> > > > Grand that is showing cracks through the finish
> > telegraphed from the
> > > > joints
> > > > of the core material.  There doesn't appear to
> > be any cross banding
> > > > between
> > > > the core-which looks like oak-and the face
> > veneer.  The cracks are from
> > > > the
> > > > hinge end and show on both sides of the lid. 
> > The shop is a first rate
> > > > refinishing facility with very talented staff. 
> > No one hs ever seen this
> > > > problem before, and no one remembers seeing the
> > cracks in the lid before
> > > > refinishing.  The stripping process does not use
> > waterbased strippers or
> > > > rinses. The humidity during stripping and
> > finishing was close to 60%,
> > now
> > > > it's about 40%. Has anyone seen this in other
> > lids/pieces from that era?
> > > > I'd
> > > > appreciate any thoughts or experiences.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Paul C
> > > >
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