All a beginning tuner has to do is show he's studying his craft. I think back to when Terry Farrell came on the List, yea many years ago it seems. He was always asking questions about this and that but he was taking pianos apart and really trying to learn the business. He had the drive. When I read a question from a new tuner on the list I'd like to hear his ideas about what could be going on. What does he know? What kind of piano? I want to see some effort or I don't bother answering... many others will any way...;-] Now as I write this I'm sure I've asked plenty of questions without any of the above criteria...;-] David Ilvedson ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> From: Dean May <deanmay@pianorebuilders.com> To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:10:14 -0500 Subject: RE: Setting Rates >Terry, and others, >Please be careful when making disparaging remarks against "tooners." It >seems to me that these are the very people that the PTG wants to draw in for >professional development. We need to be intentional about creating an >environment that makes beginners feel welcome. I remember when first >starting out I was super intimidated whenever I was around people that had >been in the business awhile. I was painfully and acutely aware of my >shortcomings and lack of knowledge/experience. I don't have my RPT yet >probably for that very reason: I felt like an "outsider" any time I went to >a PTG seminar. >The recent seminar hosted by my home chapter, Indy 440, was very different. >I felt very encouraged by the classes and strongly motivated to pursue >getting tested. The classes were excellent. Very well done. Many thanks to >all for their hard work. >Dean >Dean May cell 812.239.3359 >PianoRebuilders.com 812.235.5272 >Terre Haute IN 47802 >-----Original Message----- >From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf >Of Farrell >Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:02 AM >To: Pianotech >Subject: Re: Setting Rates >Yes, and that is why one can observe a pretty fair range of "tuning" fees. >Professional, well trained, piano technicians will charge fees on a par with >other professionals. Tooners that get a couple lessons or read a book and >then toon part time or whatever are the ones that offer $45 toonings - and >hope they don't break a string - and look at you cock-eye when you say >"pitch raise - "what's that?", etc., etc. >Terry Farrell >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> >To: <pianotech@ptg.org> >Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:48 AM >Subject: Re: Setting Rates >> Of course not just anyone can call themselves a plumber. I believe it is >a licensed skill with several years of apprenticeship under a master >plumber? Anyone can put a shingle and call themselves a piano tuner. >I've got to think there is a difference....oh, boy, have I opened a can of >worms...;-] >> >> David Ilvedson, RPT >> >> >> >> ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> >> From: Don <pianotuna@accesscomm.ca> >> To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> >> Received: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:19:16 >> Subject: Re: Setting Rates >> >> >Hi Matthew, >> >> >Our lovely fellow servicemen called plumbers charge $137.00 (Canadian) >for >> >a "visit". Should I charge less? I think not! >> >> >At 07:12 AM 14/10/2004 -0700, you wrote: >> >>I was just curious. And if you go to a clients home and all they >want >> >>you to do is evaluate the piano, which can take only about half an >hour... >> >> Just wondering what everyone has to say. >> >> >> >>Thanks! >> >> >> >>Matthew Todd >> >>Todd Piano Works >> >>Piano Tuner/Technician >> >>Tuning - Repairing - >> >>Regulating__________________________________________________ >> >>Do You Yahoo!? >> >>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> >>http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >Regards, >> >Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T. >> >Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat >> >> >mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ >> >> >3004 Grant Rd. >> >REGINA, SK >> >S4S 5G7 >> >306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner >> >_______________________________________________ >> >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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