Renner 'Blues'

[David Love]

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My complaint hasn=92t been about their cost, they=92re less expensive =
than
Steinway, Isaac, Abel Selects and about the same as other Abel hammers.
They are only slightly more than Ronsen hammers.  I was interested to
hear Lloyd talk about the pressing mixup of a couple of years ago,
though, because I stopped using them about that time because I found
them to be too hard.  One thing I=92ve noticed, which seems somewhat
contrary to how Andre described the felt, is that the Wurzen he talked
about supposedly had this sort of yellowish, off white color.  The
Premium Blue doesn=92t seem to have that=97at least the one set that I =
have
in stock.  Are there possibly different grades of Wurzen?  The felt that
Ray at Ronsen is using has a somewhat different color than the Premium
Blue and the pressing is also a different shape=97more
small-end-of-the-egg like (which I prefer) and less round.  I also find
the Premium Blue a difficult hammer to file.  While I only have one set
of Ronsen Wurzens which I=92ve only experimented with, I haven=92t found =
the
same filing problem. =20
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David Love
davidlovepianos@comcast.net=20
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From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
Behalf Of D.L. Bullock
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 4:08 PM
To: PTG; antares
Subject: RE: Renner 'Blues'
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Where did anyone get the idea that "Most Americans do not like these
(Renner) hammers"?  I think the only thing anyone does not like about
Renners is their cost.  Every one of the finest technicians I have known
used Renners.  I have used them for over ten years.  I do not find them
to be too hard.  If one piano sounds too loud they may easily be voiced
down.  I prefer the old style sound from pianos I restore from the teens
and twenties.=20
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The new Yamaha or even new Steinway sound sets my teeth on edge like
fingernails on the blackboard.  Renners are exactly what I am looking
for.  I have only had one or two in those years of Renner hammers that
were in need of voicing down.  What I like about them is I don't have to
voice them up, but only need to even them out.  I have many happy
customers who agree with me and they are some of the finest musicians
anywhere.
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If you want stone hard hammers, check out imadegawa or other cheaper
Asian hammers.  I had one customer who called me up a month after
getting his piano back from my competition.  He was literally in tears.
The piano had no character in its tone and was excruciatingly LOUD.  It
could not even play soft if you tried.  He had asked for Renner and was
told " You will love it when I get done"  I replaced those brand new
rock hammers with Renners and he then loved it.
=20
Another customer spent $17,000. for a restoration of his Mason Hamlin
and when he requested Renner hammers was charged an extra $2,500.00 for
them.  When he got the piano back it had cheap Asian hammers on it that
were like Rocks.  The lawsuit he won but I doubt he will get anything
from the so-called piano technician in Broken Arrow OK since the guy
declared bankruptcy.  He is still doing university piano sales, however.
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I am VERY pleased with Renner hammers.  I would only change if I could
find the hammer exactly like they make but for substantially less money.
(Like that will happen.)
=20
D.L. Bullock
www.thepianoworld.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: antares [mailto:antares@euronet.nl]
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 4:28 AM
To: Pianotech
Subject: Re: Renner 'Blues'
It is exactly as what said, they are Wurzens because they come from
Renner and almost all hammers made by Renner are covered with Wurzen
felt.
The fact that most Americans do not like these hammers has nothing to do
with the felt, but with the way they were made, i.e. the pressure with
which they were glued.
Nobody likes stone hard hammers.
What is sad though for all technicians who had no word in this nor
choice, is the fact that 'they' kept on distributing these hammers for
years, and only now are going to bring the 'better hammers' into the US
(if we may believe this).
I personally never wanted to be dependent, but rather choose my own
stuff, and I have done so.

On the other hand, this (the hammer business in the USA) is not my
business, literally speaking,=20
but you asked,=20
and it is a free world,=20
at least so 'they' say.........


friendly greetings
from
Andr=E9 Oorebeek

"where Music is, no harm can be"

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