Hi Bernhard et al., Fascinating discussion! You wrote: > Yes thatīs what i say. As long as you put the same amount of energy into > the > key, the sound will not be louder. This the principle of conservation of > energy. and then: >> > The amount of energy imparted to the string which is >> > transferred to the soundboard is a function of mass and/or density of >> > the object striking the string. > > Not only. The function includes also the hammer speed and the strings > impedance (including mass and tension of the string). If you put in the > same amount of energy into the key, the speed will be lower so the > loudness > will not change therefore. With a heavier hammer you will get louder lower > partials, but less higher partials. May thatīs why you have the impression > of a louder sound. But the overall energy does not change. > Yes thatīs what i say. As long as you put the same amount of energy into > the > key, the sound will not be louder. This the principle of conservation of > energy. This is all true, of course, but one also has to consider the efficiency of energy transfer between the hammer and string. This depends largely on the elasticity of the hammer. But considering two hammers of similar elasticity, I would of course agree. Having said this, I think there can be huuuuge differences in hammer elasticity. I just finished replacing the hammers on my 9' Wissner. The old hammers were not *too* misshapen, but as a set, they were very inconsistent from note to note. I did put on heavier hammers, but not *that* much heavier (about 1 Stanwood level). The primary difference between my old hammers and my new hammers is the felt. The old felt was not of particularly great quality, and it was highly lacquered. The new hammers are of unlacquered Wurzen felt. Overall, the tonal properties of the two hammer sets are similar, sort of. They are of similar brightness/darkness, anyway, although the old ones sound a bit "woody" (for lack of a good term). The weaknesses of my old hammer set were most apparent in the mid treble, which was rather thready. The last octave had reasonable sustain, considering the age of the SB, but not much strength either. However, one really expects and needs strength in the mid treble, and I didn't have it. The bass and tenor, by comparison, were very robust. At the time I bought the piano, I had faith <grin> in the problem deriving from the inferiority of the hammer set. I'm happy to report that the new hammer set gives me well balanced sound from bottom to top. (To be more accurate, the top few notes may indeed need a bit of filing and/or lacquer.) The problem with the thready treble has been eliminated. More to the point of the discussion, and to paraphrase from an earlier post from someone on this list (regarding Wurzen felt), I've got power out the wazoo! Good lord, if I wanted to, I could now compete with the guy across the street with the powerful sound system that delivers crystal-clear music to my bedroom at 4:00 AM, at least if I faced the piano the other way and opened the window. ;-) The difference in power is not a perceptual phenomenon with regard to emphasis of different partials. It's quite profound and real (perhaps by 15 or 20 dB in the mid treble), and I would say it has to do with the differences in elasticity between the two hammer sets. The unlacquered Wurzen felt is simply springier than the (over)lacquered felt, and therefore more of the energy reaches the string, instead of burning off in the form of heat. I frankly don't know whether "good" lacquering would have made my old set perform well. The old hammers were visibly soaked (blue-gray) from the shoulders to the 9:00 and 3:00 positions. I didn't do any strike point analysis (e.g. with chalk), and it's quite possible that shaping could have improved them slightly. Anyway, I offer these observations for all they are worth. YMMV!! And no, I have no experience with how these hammers would have performed on other scale and SB designs -- only on a 1933 clone of an S&S D. Incidentally, I did try out some Abel samples (both the light and the premium), prior to selecting the Wurzens. They weren't appreciably different from the hammers I already had, but I bet they would have largely balanced out my mid treble. Peace, Sarah
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