This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment HT =3D Historic (or Historical) Temperaments.=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andrew & Rebeca Anderson=20 To: Pianotech=20 Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:37 AM Subject: Re: for your (radical turn) Cy, I used to think that about WTs (well temperaments, what is HT?) but my = experience has changed the perception. Originally, I tuned my wife's = baby to Valloti-Young and it was OK, less bland than ET but nothing = particularly interesting. We tried a WT suggested by Paul Bailey and = then compared it to others on paper and went for Barne's Bach WT. We = like it. The Wurlizter baby sings. She plays everything from pre-Bach = to Katchaturian. ( I think the Katchaturian Toccata would be really = powerful in modified Meantone.) I'm expecting to tune a square grand = that hasn't been tuned since it was re-strung (Brown & Allen, ten years = ago) in modified meantone. =20 The more remote keys aren't merely dissonant in WTs, they have vocal = qualities. When Beethoven shifts gears in a piece you can hear the = vibrato come out. The drive to 'perfect' tuning to the modern ET was = more industry driven than artist driven from what I read. Check them out, you'll like them, Andrew Las Cruces, NM At 12:24 PM 3/13/2004 -0600, you wrote: Do you always tune "Representative Victorian", or do you pick a = different HT based on the piano and its players? I've heard HTs can = make spinets, in particular, sound better. =20 I've always thought an HT would be great for beginners, who aren't = going to get into more than two sharps or flats for a couple of years. = May as well let 'em enjoy those thirds! =20 --Cy-- ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Farrell=20 To: Pianotech=20 Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 11:58 AM Subject: Re: for your (radical turn) Last week I tuned a 1980s S&S M for a new client. He just moved = down here from Manhattan. He has always had "Steinway" technicians = service his piano. He "warned" me that he has had arguments about = whether some notes were "in tune" with technicians in the past. I raised the pitch 25 cents to A440 and tuned it to the = "Representative Victorian" temperament on my Verituner. He sat down and = banged out a movement from the Appassionata while I packed up my tools = (and watched in amazement and awe). After he was done, he said "piano is = perfect - never sounded so good". I'm not really sure if my tuning was = that good (the piano did tune up well - I was unusually happy with it), = if he just liked the temperament, or if his past service personnel were = sub-par. FWIW, I pretty much only tune in ET on request - and that is only = a very few pianos. Terry Farrell ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:18 PM Subject: Re: for your (radical turn) > I can echo Ed here... yet I still struggle with an = unbeleivalbe=20 > apathy I find amoung so many of the pianists around here. Their=20 > reactions to HT's, when they react at all... are always as Ed = describes=20 > below.... but getting them to actually DO something with this = new=20 > <<toy>> is another matter.=20 >=20 > I have one Professor who insists on having his Young Chang piano = tuned=20 > to a milde well... but only because its never sounded good in = ET... but=20 > this same guy doesnt want to work up a program based on HT's... = nor=20 > spend any time exposing his students to the potential. >=20 > I just know that sooner or later something will spark and the = ball will=20 > get rolling... but the basic GAFFER attitude I find amoung young = > pianists and faculty at the University level sometimes astounds = me. =20 > They have their ciriculum... and thats what life is about.. . >=20 > Nice turn tho Ed >=20 > RicB >=20 > A440A@aol.com wrote: >=20 > >Bill writes:=20 > ><< Now what was the subject, temperaments? <G> >> > > > >Humm, now that you mention it.... =20 > > I had a new customer call me to tune a Steinway M = yesterday. Said that=20 > >he had decided to sell it and wanted it to sound its best. = Told me to do=20 > >whatever I thought would make it most attractive. So, I tuned = it in a Broadwood.=20 > >He sat down and played it. His wife (also a musician and = songwriter), came=20 > >downstairs and stood there. Hint of rapture in the air... > > After a piece or two, he looked up and said, at the same = time his wife=20 > >did, "This piano has never sounded this good!" Not sure they = want to part with=20 > >it, now. =20 > > Last week, a studio owner also had me tune, but asked to = return to ET for=20 > >an overdub session that was going in E maj. He told me that = since he had=20 > >become used to the Coleman 11, the piano just sounds out of = tune to him in ET and=20 > >wants to return to WT as soon as possible. =20 > > Like I said last century, this stuff will just not go away! = Politicians=20 > >will, but not the WTT's (well-tempered tuners). =20 > >Regards,=20 > > > > > > > > =20 > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: = https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >=20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/a8/4f/da/8b/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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