Vise Grips voicing is not a vice

[Farrell]

Or go talk to your Mother:
http://www.mothergoosetools.com/other_tools/voicing_pliers.shtml

Terry Farrell

www.farrellpiano.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ryan sowers" <pianorye@yahoo.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Cc: <cswearingen@daigger.com>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: Vise Grips voicing is not a vice


>
> You have to make them yourself. I used a combination
> of the bench grinder and a dremmel tool. Here's a
> picture:
>
>
> If you don't have any way of making them yourself
> email me and perhaps I can be talked into making you a
> pair.
>
> --- Corte Swearingen <cswearingen@daigger.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Where do you find these voicing pliers?  I'm curious
> > to see a picture of
> > one.  From what I've read, standard vise grip pliers
> > are probably not the
> > way to go here.
> >
> > Corte Swearingen
> > Chicago
> >
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> >
> >                       "Dave Nereson"
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> >                       <davner@kaosol.ne        To:
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> > Subject:  Vise Grips voicing is not a vice
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> >                       pianotech-bounces
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> >                       07/26/2004 01:45
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> >                       PM
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> >                       Please respond to
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> >                       Pianotech
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> >
> > I gotta side with David Love here, and others that
> > take this position.
> > Hammers that require draconian treatments such as
> > pliers-mashing to get
> > them soft enough to at all useable are not high
> > quality piano hammers to
> > begin with. Ok ok... lots of cheapos use such
> > hammers... and a mans
> > gotta do what a mans gotta do and all that I am
> > sure... but decent
> > voicing on decent instruments does not involve this
> > kind of thing.
> >
> > Cheers
> > RicB
> >
> >     I strongly disagree.  Yamahas, Kawais, Young
> > Changs, and a few other
> > Asians makes are considered decent instruments, yet
> > after a few years of
> > heavy playing (or even when brand new!), and in dry
> > climates, can exhibit
> > extremely hard hammers that break strings.  Rather
> > than break up and cut
> > the
> > fibers with sharp needles, which, especially on
> > Yamahas, makes them pull
> > apart at the crown, I opt for, as someone else put
> > it, "deep tissue
> > massage".  [Webster's Collegiate:  Draconian --  . .
> > . ; barbarously
> > severe,
> > harsh].  Some of these hammers require severe
> > treatment.  I wouldn't
> > consider it barbarous or harsh, if that's what it
> > takes to be able to get
> > them to accept voicing needles.  As I said in
> > another post, the Vise Grips
> > are for gross, initial hammer softening, not for
> > fine concert voicing.
> > Steaming can also work if the hammers aren't
> > excessively hard, but it
> > affects mostly the surface and doesn't loosen up the
> > felt deep in the
> > shoulders.  I don't believe in stabbing and stabbing
> > and pricking and
> > poking
> > until the fibers are all torn up, there are hundreds
> > of prick holes in the
> > hammer, and you've got carpal tunnel syndrome and
> > tennis elbow.  --David
> > Nereson, RPT
> >
> >
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> Ryan Sowers, RPT  Puget Sound Chapter
> Pianova Piano Service
> Olympia, WA
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