---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment -------------------------------1089954745 In a message dated 7/15/2004 7:05:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, Erwinspiano writes: HI Phil Have you used the Ronsens with the Bacon felt? >>> Yes, I have but not usually & I agree that there is a difference but not that much. I have a set in my Mason AA & it is very nice. My sister has the identical piano as in one serial no. different & I put the VFG felt in hers. Just slightly more bite. Yes is a different sound & viva la difference but Not Soft soft. I think on problem is that Bacon has had a history of inconsistency & is the likely reason all the Steinway hammers are now the American felt CO felt. Which for Steinways is my personal favorite. Being that Ray presses everything the same way the differences in this case is the internal properties or fractions as Stephen Birkett pointed out. of the type of felt used. I haven't used a set in a couple of years, so maybe they're different now. But the last ones I used were, to me, very similar to Steinway hammers, which I consider to be quite soft. The last set of NY Steinway hammers that I worked with, which I bought towards the end of last year, were about the softest hammers I've ever worked with. Little more than marshmallows. >>> You should have sent them back. When there good they are quite good and the tone is hard to equal with other makes but when ther bad ughh!!! I don't know when the harder pressing that you refer to started happening. >>Me either but the few sets I use show a difference currently. I have a set of hammers that I ordered for the C about 2 months ago. We'll see how they are. And we'll see if the set after that is similar (which would be a first for Steinway). Renner at 7 sounds OK. Ronsen Wurzen at 5 sounds OK (don't agree about the Bacon felt though, unless things have changed). Don't agree about the Steinway being 4.5 unless things have changed dramatically recently. ... we'll see Dale I'd like to think that Ray is making the Ronsen hammers with the different felts to be different in hardness and performance, so that we have some range of choice about what to use for what piano. I agree that over the last few years the spectrum of hammer hardness seems to have narrowed, which I don't think is a bad thing, since the hammers at both ends of the spectrum were, to me, essentially unusable. me too Regards, Phil -------------------------------1089954745 An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/90/21/8c/4f/attachment.htm -------------------------------1089954745-- ---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Erwinspiano@aol.com Subject: Re: Renner Blues Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 22:05:33 EDT Size: 7858 Url: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/52/d0/bc/40/attachment.eml ---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment--
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