Fwd: Renner Blues

Erwinspiano@aol.com Erwinspiano@aol.com
Fri, 16 Jul 2004 01:12:25 EDT


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In a message dated 7/15/2004 7:05:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, Erwinspiano  
writes:

HI Phil

Have you used the Ronsens with the Bacon  felt? 
  >>> Yes, I have but not usually & I  agree that there is a difference but 
not that much. I have a set in my  Mason AA & it is very nice. My sister has 
the identical piano as in one  serial no. different & I put the VFG felt in 
hers. Just slightly more  bite. Yes is a different sound & viva la difference but 
Not Soft soft. I  think  on problem is that Bacon has had a history of 
inconsistency &  is the likely reason all the Steinway hammers are now the American 
felt  CO felt. Which for Steinways is my personal favorite.
   Being that Ray presses everything the same way the  differences in this 
case is the internal properties or fractions as Stephen  Birkett pointed out. of 
the type of felt used.

I  haven't used a 
set in a couple of years, so maybe they're different  now.  But the last 
ones I used were, to me, very similar to  Steinway hammers, which I consider 
to be quite soft.  The last set  of NY Steinway hammers that I worked with, 
which I bought towards the  end of last year, were about the softest hammers 
I've ever worked  with.  Little more than marshmallows.
  >>> You should have sent them back. When there  good they are quite good 
and the tone is hard to equal with other makes but  when ther bad ughh!!!

I don't know when 
the harder pressing that you refer to started  happening. 
  >>Me either but the few sets I use show a difference  currently.
 

I have  a set of 
hammers that I ordered for the C about 2 months ago.   We'll see how they 
are.  And we'll see if the set after that is  similar (which would be a 
first for Steinway).  Renner at 7 sounds  OK.  Ronsen Wurzen at 5 sounds OK 
(don't agree about the Bacon felt  though, unless things have 
changed).  Don't agree about the  Steinway being 4.5 unless things have 
changed dramatically  recently.
  ... we'll see
   Dale


I'd like to think that Ray is  making the Ronsen hammers with the 
different felts to be different in  hardness and performance, so that we 
have some range of choice about  what to use for what piano.
I agree  that over the last few years the spectrum of hammer hardness
seems to  have narrowed, which I don't think is a bad thing, since the hammers
at  both ends of the spectrum were, to me, essentially  unusable.
 
   me too



Regards,

Phil

 



 

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