Non-ETs; more organic than ET?

[Don]

Hi Ed,

Well then since Art is not enough for you try this on for size:

Albert Einstein

"I maintain that cosmic religiousness is the strongest and most noble
driving force of scientific research."

Hogwash to your orignal statement I think? Game set and match too!

At 01:51 PM 4/4/2004 EDT, you wrote:
>Greetings, 
>I wrote: 
>>   For some, (myself included), music is a spiritual activity and we pursue 
>>ways of making it more so.  It is a small step from the emotional to the 
>>spiritual world, and the spiritual world is a world which,  by definition,
>the 
>>scientist is barred from entering.   >>
>
>Don replies: 
>
><< Please repeat that to Einstein? Hogwash Ed. 
>
>"After a certain high level of technical skill is achieved, science and art
>tend to coalesce in esthetics, plasticity, and form. The greatest
>scientists are always artists as well."
>Albert Einstein
>
>    Well, exactly what is the point here??   I don't see Einstein even 
>addressing spirituality in this quote!   It seems that Don is regarding
spirituality 
>and art as interchangable terms.  I don't.  While I firmly believe that 
>craftsmanship can be taken to the level of art,(though some of my Fine Art 
>instructors vehemently disagreed with this in college) I do not
automatically consider 
>an artist as a spiritual being.  
>    Even when Einstein states, 
>    "I assert that the cosmic religious experience is the strongest and the 
>noblest driving force behind scientific research."  we don't know what he
means 
>by "cosmic religious experience".  However, if this is his take on 
>spirituality,  he is still not saying that science is able to enter the
spiritual world. 
> (and for the record, I don't think being religious automatically confers 
>spirituality...)   
>
>Since we have been treated to Einstein's words as a source, let us consider 
>these gems:
>
>"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
minds.
>"
>(In cruder terms, it has been asked "why do the heathen rage"?)
>
>and in regard to science vs. spirituality:
>
>"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our 
>humanity."
>
>Further quotes from Einstein: 
>
>     "Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which 
>differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even 
>incapable of forming such opinions."
>
>      Any of us that have trumpeted the value of using a wide range of 
>temperaments have become accustomed to the "prejudices of our social
environment".  
>However, my opinion is that it is valuable to become familiar with the 
>developement of temperament and the music that was composed with the various 
>permutations along the way.  Slings and arrows?  sure,  but I expected
that.  
> 
>  Albert again: 
>   "All that is valuable in human society depends upon the opportunity for 
>development accorded the individual."
>     How much "opportuninty for development" is being encouraged by limiting 
>temperment use to one single form?  Does the young, growing musician get the 
>greatest opportunity for growth from a single tonal perspective?  I don't
think 
>so.  
>
>I suppose my favorite on the list that Don posted links to is this one; 
>
>"It gives me great pleasure indeed to see the stubbornness of an
incorrigible 
>nonconformist warmly acclaimed. " 
>
>   I don't mind being a nonconformist.  I can tune ET anytime I need to and 
>the whenever the $ituation calls for it.  I can also offer new
perspectives to 
>musicians with the alternatives, and my experience has, so far, been a 
>rewarding one.  There is a tremendous sense of accomplishment when a piano
owner 
>looks up from their newly well-tempered instrument and says "I have never
heard 
>this piano sound so good!".   I no longer keep track of these epiphanies,
but 
>they are a continuing source of joy in my work, and I am not alone in this.  
>Regards,
>   
>Ed Foote RPT 
>http://www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/index.html
>www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html
> 
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>

Regards,
Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.

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