FW: Tokiwa parts (was Steinway K Double flange)

[David Love]

I've also had problems with Tokiwa wippens that are similar to those
described.  In addition, last I checked, the leading edge of the jack was
not beveled causing a bit more of a bump at let off than I like and forcing
the balancier to regulate higher than I would like in order to insure
return.  Though all of these things can be addressed, it's unfortunate that
they should have to be done on a new set.  

David Love
davidlovepianos@earthlink.net


> [Original Message]
> From: Richard Brekne <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
> To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Date: 9/25/2003 1:00:10 PM
> Subject: Re: FW: Tokiwa parts (was Steinway K Double flange)
>
> Change the pins, McLube the spring :)
>
> RicB
>
> Mark Dierauf wrote:
>
> > In the last year I put in two sets of the Tokiwa "Miracle Wips" with the
> > movable heel and wippen assist spring. Both sets have ongoing problems
> > with squeeking rep-lever springs (they squeek in the slots) which also
> > causes erratic hammer rise due to the increased friction. In addition,
> > one of these sets has occasional problems where either the jack or
> > wippen flange pinning becomes tight to the point of not functioning. I
> > have measured friction on some of these at over 40 grams!!!
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A440A@aol.com [mailto:A440A@aol.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:49 PM
> > To: pianotech@ptg.org
> > Subject: Re: Steinway K Double flange
> >
> > Mark writes:
> >
> > << I've done a couple of these with all new Tokiwa parts - Yamaha
> > dampers
> > and it's a royal pain! After examining some new K's I've wondered if one
> > could simple but a new style action frame from NY and install the new
> > Renner parts on it. Expensive, but it would make regulating and future
> > service much easier. Also I remain unconvinced of the longevity of the
> > Tokiwa parts - the more of them that I see, the less I like them. >>
> >
> > Greetings,
> >    I used Tokiwa parts for several Steinway grands at Vanderbilt back in
> > the
> > mid 1980's and those actions are still in use, still functioning
> > extremely
> > well.  There was less pinning problems than the factory parts at the
> > time, and
> > there was much less papering needed to travel and space them when I
> > installed
> > them!
> > Have some things changed??
> > Wondering
> > Ed Foote RPT
> > www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/
> > www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html
> >  <A
> > HREF="http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/399/six_degrees_of_tonality.html">
> > MP3.com: Six Degrees of Tonality</A>
> >
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