> > > What is this data that you're referring to? I don't find anything on >> the Wapin website. Therefore, it's actually rather easy for me to >> disregard it. >> Phil Ford > >You are right... they dont have it available anymore... used to be >up for public >view... lots of charts with some frequency comparisons between a >Wapinized Steinway >D and a Stock one.... showing sustain and power for each. I'll see >if its possible >to still view these. > >RicB Perhaps Steinway didn't like the fact that they were claiming a simple modification could dramatically improve a stock Steinway. I think I've seen the charts that you're talking about. My experience of Wapin was from a convention some years back. There was on display a gallery of rebuilt pianos. One was a Brambach (or piano of similar quality) grand that had been Wapinized. I don't know if it had any official connection with the Wapin people or just happened to be there. I'm not sure that I could draw any conclusions from that piano. It's sort of like saying you invented a new camshaft and here's a Pinto that we rebuilt with our new camshaft in it. Isn't it the best Pinto you're ever seen? Er, well, maybe - but so what? In the class that the Wapin folks gave they played recordings of several Steinway Ds, one of which had been Wapinized. We were asked to vote on which piano we liked best. To the chagrin of the presenter, the Wapin piano came in last place. Now, I'm not saying that random recordings of pianos is a good means of comparison, and individual tastes do vary, but still... I think these charts were shown as well. To show charts from two random pianos and make claims about differences from design changes is suspect in my view. You could make charts from two pianos that came off the assembly line one after the other and there could be dramatic differences, perhaps more dramatic than that between the Wapin piano and the non-Wapin piano charts. As Mark Bolsius pointed out in a later post, when rebuilding a piano and incorporating Wapin the piano will probably be improved, maybe dramatically, but is that due to Wapin or to all the other things that were done? I have not seen data that to my satisfaction effectively isolates the effects of the Wapin mod and demonstrates that there really is a positive improvement (however you define that). How about you take three Steinway Ds (or other make and model of your choice) with boards, bridges, and actions in good shape, file the hammers, regulate and voice to your satisfaction, and then make your charts. Measure downbearing everywhere, measure string plane height, make templates of bridge pin locations, and make some templates to locate the plate. Disassemble the pianos, do the Wapin thing, using your bridge pin templates to insure that you have the same side bearing, and put them back together taking pains to insure that the plates are in the same place, the string planes are the same height above the keybed, the downbearing is the same everywhere as it was. Do absolutely nothing to the actions, and then make your new charts. Is there a change? Is it consistent across the pianos? Is the change more significant than the differences which are in the three pianos anyway just from being three different Steinways? Is it a positive change? When I see this data then they'll have my attention. Until then, probably not. Phil Ford -- Phillip Ford Piano Service and Restoration 1777 Yosemite Ave - 130 San Francisco, CA 94124
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