> I dont know Phil, but it seems fairly intuitive that a pulse, or wave... or >however you want to conceptualize it... traveling down a wire and hitting an >end point is going to tend to get deflected by the condition of that endpoint. >If its angled as the bridge pins are, it would seem reasonable to assume that >there will be some degree of force exerted on the vibrating string on that >angle.. How much is another matter altogether... but its rather hard to >disregard the data Wapin has assembled on the subject. > >I was under the impression that Wapins bridge was conducive to >vibration in the >vertical direction, not horizontal. If Rons statement is true, then the whole >thing becomes just that more interesting... and as I said a bit back... it >would be nice to see the same kind of frequency data on the Stuart as is >available for the Wapin for comparison > >RicB Before we get too far down the rabbit hole may I say that the only point that I was trying to make is that it is not possible (according to my interpretation of the physics) to confine the string vibration to a single plane. As to whether these two practitioners are in fact making that claim I offer this: From the Stuart website - 'The challenge of applying contemporary design and technology to the evolution of the piano inspired the invention of the bridge agraffe. This sophisticated string coupling device is designed to retain the vertical mode of vibration produced when the hammer strikes the string'. Leaving aside the preposterous claim that he invented the bridge agraffe (perhaps he means that he invented his particular version of a bridge agraffe), I read this as saying he believes his system causes the string to vibrate only in a vertical plane. From the Wapin patent (6,100,457) - 'Although the nature of the mechanical coupling between the strings, bridge structures and soundboard and its influence on tone quality is not fully understood, and not intending to be bound by any particular theory herein, it is believed that the perceptible sustain time of an excited string in an arrangement incorporating the present invention is effectively and perceptively longer than a comparable string whose speaking length is terminated by a bridge structure having a first bridge pin which is not substantially perpendicular, as defined herein. It is further believed that the fundamental frequency of an excited string in an arrangement incorporating the present invention may have a greater amplitude than its first overtone when compared to a comparable string which is not substantially perpendicular. It is further contemplated that the above-described benefits of a substantially perpendicular first bridge pin are derived from an increase in the amount of a string's initial vibrational energy in a plane generally parallel to the soundboard (i.e., generally perpendicular to a first bridge pin incorporating the present invention). Because the mechanical impedance in the plane parallel to the soundboard is high relative to the mechanical impedance in the plane perpendicular to the soundboard, a string's vibrational energy is dissipated largely in the perpendicular plane. As such, it is contemplated that the present arrangement places more energy into a plane which is parallel to the soundboard and produces a tone with a longer decay time because more energy is initially "stored" for later dissipation in the perpendicular plane'. So, as I read this the Wapin folks are not claiming to confine the string vibration strictly to the horizontal plane. Actually, compared to the outlandish claims one often sees in patents and the know-it-all 'this is the way things work' attitude that often obtains in discussions about pianos, their patent is refreshingly restrained. Comments about Wapin in a separate post. Regards, Phil Ford
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