False Beats: A whole new approach!

[Alan]

Correctemundo. 

The Schaff catalog "pitch" is interesting. I HAVE had a few beats slow
down or otherwise "get better," but I challenge their claim that it will
"eliminate or minimize 75 to 80% of ... false beats encountered while
pitch raising." 

I think that's just bogus--unless one considers a false beat that has
improved--but not so as you can really tell a difference--as being,
quote, "minimized."

I used to try it on virtually every fb I ran into. Nowadays, it mostly
lives in quiet seclusion in the bottom of my tool kit, only rarely
coming out to play.

Alan R. Barnard
Salem, MO


-----Original Message-----
From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
Behalf Of gordon stelter
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:29 PM
To: Pianotech
Subject: Re: False Beats: A whole new approach!


The purpose of the Scaff tool is to take little kinks
from the wire which may have developed near the bridge
pins on pianos that have been severely below pitch for
long periods.
     Thump

--- Roger Jolly <roger.j@sasktel.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Corte,
>                The best bang for a buck is to tap
> the bridge pins with a
> small hammer and set punch, a little movement of the
> pin gives enough 
> friction to seat the string to the bridge without
> creating damage.   Also 
> one drip of CA glue at the base of the pin will
> clear up the really bad ones.
> To verify it is coming from the bridge, push on the
> pin with a heavy blunt 
> screw driver while playing the note.
> 
> Hope this helps
> Roger
> 
> 
> 
> At 07:43 AM 9/2/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >Hello Everyone,
> >
> >This brings up a question for me.  I have that
> little tool that Schaff
> >sells to get rid of false beats.  It looks to me
> just to be a curved piece
> >of nickel-plated brass with a groove in the end.  I
> can't remember what I
> >paid for it but I'm sure it was too much.
> >
> >Occasionally, I do pull it out when I'm tuning up
> in the treble and I get
> >to an area where there are some false beats.  I
> place the grooved end on
> >the string and give some jabs in hopes of better
> seating the string.  I'm
> >also careful not to press or jab too hard so as not
> to force teh string to
> >cut into the bridge.  Sometimes it seems to improve
> matters but I've never
> >had a situation where it completely cleaned up a
> false beating string.
> >And, in many cases, it doesn't seem to do anything.
> >
> >Is this type of device still the preferred method
> of dealing with false
> >beats or is there some other technique that tends
> to have better results?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Corte Swearingen
> >Chicago
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >                       "Alan"
> >
> >                       <tune4u@earthlink        To:
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> Subject:  False Beats: A
> > whole new approach!
> >                       pianotech-bounces
> >
> >                       @ptg.org
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> >                       08/30/2003
> > 11:22
> >                       AM 
> >
> >                       Please respond
> > to
> >                       Pianotech 
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >David's post on the amazingly stable Kawai grand
> triggered this
> >post--specifically that it had high treble false
> beats in an acustically
> >live room.
> >
> >I recently tuned a 60's era spinet that was way out
> of wack. The customer
> >wanted to know if it was a "keeper" or whether she
> should start saving for
> >a new piano. Ignoring the obvious and prejudicial
> answer, I said that we'd
> >have to see how it sounds after repairs and tuning.
> >
> >After bridge repairs, two new strings, a 120+ cent
> pitch raise and two
> >tuning passes, it sounded amazingly not-so-bad. I
> told her so and she
> >agreed. As the discussion was rather in depth and
> she wanted me to be
> >frank--Frank Who? one might ask--I did point out
> that there were false
> >beats in the upper treble. She asked me to
> demonstrate, and I did.
> >
> >This was her reaction: "Well, that's just a bonus:
> extra vibrato."
> >
> >So you see, we should have been promoting the
> positive side of this
> >phenomenon all along!
> >
> >Alan R. Barnard
> >Salem, MO
> >
> >
> >
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