My standard phrase is: "Ma'am, I call 'em as I see 'em". Terry Farrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Love" <davidlovepianos@earthlink.net> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:39 PM Subject: Re: moral dilemma/ estimate > There probably is a middle ground to this. I think David did the right > thing by not capitulating to an unethical situation. However, rather than > just walk away, I think you could simply say that your own professionalism, > ethics, code of conduct or whatever, don't allow you to assess the piano > other than in a manner that you consider accurate, and do so. Some people > have grand ideas about how to take advantage of a situation, but once they > give it some thought may recognize that it is not the right way to go. I > would simply and calmly insist on being faithful to my own professional > ethics and put the ball in their court. If they choose not to use you, > cancel your scheduled appointment, or whatever, then you have your answer. > But there is no reason, as I see it, to walk away from everything for what > may turn out to be a temporary mistake in judgement on their part. > > David Love > davidlovepianos@earthlink.net > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Tom Dickson <td_tuner@hotmail.com> > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > > Date: 2/18/2003 7:03:53 PM > > Subject: Re: moral dilemma/ estimate > > > > Hi, David, > > > > One of the reasons that many of us love this business is because we > are > > able to make the kind of decision you were faced with, going totally with > > our "gut" - our conscience. There are no policies to cloud the issue, no > > "managers" to talk some sense in to us, and so on. At the end of the > day, > > there might be short-lived regret about lost income. But, I think that > it > > would soon be forgotten, whereas income realized through a morally > offensive > > action would likely "gnaw" at one for some time. > > > > I like the way you do business! > > > > Sincerely, > > Tom Dickson, > > Regina, SK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: David Renaud <drjazzca@yahoo.ca> > > >Reply-To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> > > >To: pianotech@ptg.org > > >Subject: moral dilemma/ estimate > > >Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 16:43:00 -0500 (EST) > > > > > >An estimate for a public school teacher. > > >She's hired me, she works for the school. > > > > > >Yahama Apt. size piano, not bad, > > >needs minor work. Hairline soundboard > > >crack, not open, at pitch, not > > >too much wear, about 15 years old. > > > > > >Apparently the school is now uses electric > > >keyboards; is willing to sell said piano > > >to her. > > > > > >She evicts 2 other teachers from > > >the room, and explains;" she wants > > >to be alone with me because she, > > >"Wants me not to be honest" > > >"wants a high estimate", > > >and proceeds to explain how she > > >thinks she can get the piano > > >for about $1000(Canadian money....about $600US.) > > >She then makes clear I am not to > > >communicate with the school, but > > >will be using my estimate to get what > > >she wants. > > > > > > Several issues come to mind. > > > > > >First, a client does not dictate what an > > >estimate must look like. > > >She thinks she can orchestrate the > > >details because she is hiring me. > > >I don't think so. I advocate for a > > >client hiring me, buyer or seller, > > >and act accordingly, but within reasonable > > >limits based on defendable valuations. > > > > > >Secondly, she is a public servant, > > >working for the very institution she > > >is actively trying to rip off. I see > > >no sense of obligation to look out > > >for the interests of the corporation > > >she works for. I told her this, and also > > >told her if she worked for my company > > >I would fire her. The same schools > > >that are crying no money for books > > >and activities have teachers attempting > > >to suck the system for thousands > > >of extra dollars. I happen to know this > > >same school closed a wood-shop. What do > > >you think of a teacher getting ahold > > >of most of the tools for a song, for example > > >$20 brings a giant lath home. Polish it > > >up and offer it privately for a $800 value. > > > > > >I was booked to go to the lady's home > > >after the estimate to tune and fix a few > > >things. So between this and the estimate > > >I just walked away from half a days work. > > > > > >I have heard it said > > >"never let pride get in the way of makn money" > > >well.... today I beg to disagree. > > > > > > grrrrrrrrrrrr > > > David Renaud > > > RPT > > > Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________________________ > > >Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > >_______________________________________________ > > >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >
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