Detuning bass strings was Re: loose bridge pins

[Joe And Penny Goss]

Gordon,
Do not worry I had one of Conrad's suits on.
BTW where is Conrad? I have not seen him post for a while.
Joe Goss
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: Detuning bass strings was Re: loose bridge pins


> Hi Joe,
>     Up in norhern Pennsyvania back in the 70's a a
> fellow broke up a piano in this fashion and was
> impaled by a piece of plate strut. Killed him.
>      Please don't try this again.
>      Thump
> 
> --- Joe And Penny Goss <imatunr@srvinet.com> wrote:
> > Hi Paul,
> > A few years back I decided to try an implosion of a
> > piano that was
> > unrepairable.
> > With the piano almost at pitch, I took
> > OUT All of the screws holding the plate! Nothing
> > happened! I then took an
> > eight pound sledge and began to give several good
> > wacks to various struts
> > and thin spots that were not covered by strings and
> > still nothing! I never
> > did get the critter to go! So to me  if a plate is
> > going to go there must be
> > some weakness already thereI must have beat on that
> > plate for 5 minutes, go
> > figure.
> > Joe Goss
> > imatunr@srvinet.com
> > www.mothergoosetools.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Tizzard" <ptizzard@mweb.co.za>
> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 12:45 AM
> > Subject: Detuning bass strings was Re: loose bridge
> > pins
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > A couple of weeks ago someone asked if they could
> > detune just the bass
> > strings, to work on the bass bridge, without
> > damaging the frame. I was
> > surprised to read that one can! I have always been
> > led to believe that you
> > have to detune the piano in a specific way eg. all
> > A's, A#'s etc. I see that
> > Ron Nossaman has again ok'd the procedure, so I
> > wasn't seeing things. How is
> > it that structurally the frame is able to withstand
> > the release of tension
> > in the bass area? Is it related to the findings of
> > Al Sanderson, that the
> > plate is "loaded up more equally" when pitch raising
> >  starting on A1 and
> > going up chromatically?
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Paul Tizzard
> > > S. Africa
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ron Nossaman" <RNossaman@cox.net>
> > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:51 AM
> > > Subject: Re: loose bridge pins
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >Can you "safely" pound in loose bridge pins
> > without structural damage
> > to
> > > > >the piano?
> > > >
> > > > Probably, but it won't make them tighter.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >If this is not recommended, what about
> > "soaking" the holes with 5 min
> > > > >epoxy, with the pins in place?
> > > >
> > > > CA works as well. Do you mean just pins, or pins
> > and strings?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >They are semi  loose, but not to such an extent
> > that you can remove
> > them
> > > > >without the aid of a needle nose pliers.  If
> > need be, can i safely
> > detune
> > > > >the entire bass section, in order to remove and
> > replace ALL the old
> > pins?
> > > >
> > > > Yes.
> > > >
> > > > >There are NO cracks in either bridge, so I just
> > want to get the pins
> > TIGHT
> > > > >as quickly and easily as possible. Thanks for
> > the help!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Terry Peterson
> > > >
> > > > Now, why do you want to tighten the pins? If
> > there are no cracks, what
> > are
> > > > you hoping to accomplish in the bass? What about
> > the treble? What's the
> > > > situation with the piano, and what kind of
> > piano, that indicated you
> > needed
> > > > to make the pins tighter?
> > > >
> > > > Ron N
> > > >
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