---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi Antares, I would also add that they file and shape very nicely,= =20 very easy to maintain shape. after needling. The new Knabe grands by Samick, use Renner blues, very nice open,=20 sustaining tone once voiced. (100% Renner action) Sound board and pin=20 blocks by Bolduc. The bass hammers we start needling just above the staple, and walk up to=20 about 2 o'clock. A round warm sound at ppp, and still plenty of crack at= fff. Regards Roger At 10:37 AM 9/21/02 +0200, you wrote: >And then I say (speaking from a long time experience) : > >Try the Renner hammers with Wurzen felt. >I don't know about the 'Renner blues' made for the US market (maybe they= are >made with lower tension because of your (American) way with hammer dopes) >but at least here in Europe the Renner hammers (with Wurzen) are the very >best hammers available and you find them on B=F6sendorfers, Bechsteins, >Steinways and other well known piano makers. >Yamaha uses Wurzen on their CFIIIS and these days even Samick in Seoul buys >Wurzen felt. > >The Renner Wurzen hammers we use have the following characteristics : > >Nice, even tone from the beginning. >Middle section needs some voicing and opening up (usually around 30 >strokes). >Lower bass hammers, usually the first octave, need battery voicing (driving >up the powers from the base of the hammers). >Higher treble hammers (from c''' to c'''') need battery voicing. >The highest treble hammers, usually the last 5 or 6 hammers, need some dope >to give them a little more 'ping'. > >Just yesterday, I voiced an older baby Grotrian Steinweg grand with these >Renner hammers and it took me about 1 hour and 15 minutes to needle them, >file them, clean them up and apply the dope. > >Result : >A nice, warm and even sounding Grotrian Steinweg baby with a 'ping' in the >high treble. > >By looking closely at the fibers of the Wurzen felt, and especially on the >sides, we clearly see that this felt is not just a dense, stone hard, >lifeless piece of felt. On the contrary, it almost seems like it was woven >like a beautiful and very expensive Kashmir shawl and after hearing the >result, we can understand why, in the earlier days, the great piano makers >in Europe used this felt. >Now that the Eastern part of Germany has been added to its former halve,= the >factory has opened again, continuing to make what they had to temporarily >stop a long time ago. > >friendly greetings >from > >Antares, > >Amsterdam, Holland > >"where music is, no harm can be" > >visit my website at : http://www.concertpianoservice.nl/ > > > > From: "Joseph Garrett" <joegarrett@earthlink.net> > > Reply-To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> > > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 20:11:49 -0700 > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > > Subject: Voicing > > > > I personally have had the misfortune of getting a set of "Pre-voiced" > > hammers, from Steinway! When I opened the box, it wreaked of lacquer! I= =20 > sent > > them back and requested hammers straight out of the presses with no > > "Pre-voicing" done. Which, incidentally, I was told this was "standard > > procedure". To which, I replied: how the heck do you know the=20 > application of > > these hammers and the acoustics of the room? > > As usual, the reply was the typical "cavalier" attitude that has always= =20 > been > > present at Steinway. I was warned about it by my teacher and it has= proven > > to be a fact. > > The replacements were darned near as hard as the first ones, but had not > > been "Pre-voiced". I installed them on an "O". I've never had so darned= =20 > much > > trouble with a set of hammers. Never again!!!!! The best hammers for a > > Steinway, IMHO, is anything other than theirs. > > Regards, > > Joe Garrett, RPT, (Oregon) > > > > Been There, Didn't Like It, So I'm Here To Stay! [G} > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/1d/27/05/06/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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