Greetings, After viewing Mr. Bremmer's website, I wrote >the ebvt creates a more tempered E-G# of 17+cents than the F#-A# of 13.7. SidewaysWell writes: >Here again is the big lie, Ed Foote wrote, knowing that it was not true >and for one purpose alone, to make himself the HT guru and to discredit the >way I've been successfully tuning pianos for 10 years: The cent figures of the ebvt came from the author's website. They were posted as a technical description of his creation and were listed to the tenth of a cent(though,in truth, the E-G# was listed as 19.46, which is even a worse imbalance). They describe an atypical temperament and as soon as attention was called to this, a variety of "fudges" were used in an attempt to lessen these differences, while a simultaneous personal assault was mounted. To this I say, Either stand behind the numbers you publish or change them to reflect your practises. It is comical (as well as intentionally libelous), to hear the screams of "Lie" being used in an attempt to deflect critique of the information published by yourself. Either you unknowingly published bogus information or published an atypical temperament. You can't have it both ways. As surreal a concept as it may be, make up your mind. Whereas Mr. Bremmer is fixated on a supposed "lie" on my part: >>Ed Foote pulled figures from two different analyses, specifically to support >>the lie he knew he was telling. It is not only the numbers, it is the artifact, itself. Following the published directions for creating this ebvt usually makes the key of E equal to the most highly tempered keys in the scale, (which are all approx. the same). This is interesting and novel, but not necessarily authentic. My original post calling attention only to the lack of precedent was enough to send the temperament's author into spasm's of rage, and the ensuing vitrolic screed has surprised no one. However, methinks he doth protest too much, and the "ebvt" is still, imo, a non-representative tuning of the Victorian era; indeed, he has recently described it: " the Equal Beating effect causes harmonies played at the top of the cycle of 5ths to sound far closer to pure than they really are. No other historically documented or modern temperament has this feature by design." Hard to claim historical precdedent and unique qualities in the same thing. You can't have it both ways. Indeed, Mr. Bremmer attempts to take refuge in the variable nature of his tuning, stating what happens "sometimes" as a defense against being held accountable for his published figures. Taking advantage of a lattitude that he has always denied the ET tuners, he immediately states that those figures are NOT what his tuning is. However, what his tuning is is not yet clearly defined. As said by a previous poster, it seems it is more of a system than a temperament. After years of condemnation of virtually all tuners for the imprecision of 1 cent or less, (creating the much dreaded "Reverse Well" for which Bremmer has been castigating the trade), it is contradictory to suddenly accept a greater degree of lattitude in order to ameliorate the inbalances found in his home-made temperament. Live by the cent, die by the cent...... >In the past few days, I took Direct Interval measurements of several ordinary >pianos that I tuned. Ed Foote is on record as calling all of these "JUNK". Mr. Bremmer is being very liberal with putting words in other people's mouths. I don't remember using the word "junk" to describe a P-22, Knabe console, or any of the others listed. So, either show where on the record I am using "all" and "junk" to describe the pianos listed or cease such untruths and misquotes. >Ed Foote says he tried to tune the EBVT both aurally and electronically. > If he got the results he claims he got trying to tune the EBVT, how accurate >can his tunings be where he just copied numbers out of books? Or did he just > plain LIE about it? I didn't try, I did it. It is not rocket science. It is a simple procedure to tune the ebvt according to the aural directions(assuming that they have not been changed in the last 48 hours). Any capable tuner, (and I am officially one of those) can create 6 bps third, match that speed with others, and tune Just fifths. >I don't believe or trust a thing Ed Foote says and never will. That is not a problem. However, a demonstrable pattern of continued insinuations of incompetance and fabrications, when judged on their ethical content, is. It does our trade, and our Guild, no good whatsoever to allow such negative ill-will and baseless derogatory allegations as have been openly made to continue. Such public response to critique reflects poorly on all of us. We have an ethics committee, I pay my dues, and I intend ask that they review the recent thread to determine what appears to be obvious violations of the code of ethics #1 (I will act honorably and professionally) by Mr. Bremmer. Ed Foote RPT
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