This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Alan, When I was a beginning tuner, I had trouble with S&S. It just takes more experience. Once you have experience with them, it's no problem. I use a smooth pull lever technique. I've also used the jerk technique, but I like the smooth better overall and think it is much better for those pianos with tight pins and flagpoling tendencies. The trick is learning to feel the tiny movements of the pin in the block. You can't just introduce flex or "twist" into the pin, which is what was happening when the pitch went sharp and then flat. You must go beyond hearing the pitch move and also feel the pin move the smallest amount. Once the pin moves, then you can take the "twist" out of the pin by manipulating your lever without moving the pin in the block. It's a physics thing happening--if the pin moves and you remove the twist, it has to be at least some different than it was originally. Keep at it, and it will come. Happened to me, too. :-) John M. Formsma Blue Mountain, MS -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf Of Alan R. Barnard Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 7:16 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Steinway vs. The Tuner, Round One I don't have a lot of S&S experience (in the Ozarks? Gimme a break!) but I do tune a few. Tuned an "L" infantile horizontal piano today and got thinking while wrestling with it. Pinblock quite tight (somewhat jumpy pins), string movement resistance quite high, and the collarless pins VERY sensitive to pressure in any direction--up pitch, down pitch, flagpoling, whatever. I find many notes very hard to pull in for sweet unisons. I was personally taught by Randy Potter how to tune stable strings & pins but found that moving the pin in teeny notches is very hard--too high, too low, too high ... If I got it just a hair over pitch and tried to settle everything with back pressure on the hammer, it dropped way too much. Finally, with time running out and getting a little desperate, I started dropping pitch (about a 45 degree turn of the hammer) and tuning "from the bottom" with a smooth steady pull while wanging the string pretty hard. Most of the time I could stop right on pitch --even on strings I had spent WAY too long trying to tune the "normal" way. But I worry about how stable they are as I could not "set" the pin in the usual way. Is this pretty typical Steinway? What about stability in these circumstances? What hammer techniques do y'all use on the beasts? NOTE: While tuning, I was rehearsing a pretty negative inner dialog about Steinway and all of their "genuine Steinway parts;" thinking how expensive they are and how much they look like every other piano, etc. BUT after I tuned it, I played it. Even for a small piano, what a beautiful, sweet sound. Oh, the subtleties ... ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/85/b1/6f/0e/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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