This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Comments below: Terry Farrell =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: <kam544@gbronline.com> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:17 AM Subject: Re: Choosing to Condemn > >... I don't even play, ... I don't like 15 year old Kimball=20 > >consoles. But gosh, they play and sound like a dream compared to the=20 > >old beaters. Think also about how discouraging it would be to play=20 > >the old beater every day - especially for the youngster taking=20 > >lessons. > > > >Well, probably more than my 2 cents worth. > > > >Terry Farrell >=20 > Terry, >=20 > To qualify my following comments, I am not speaking of basket cases=20 > or derelict pianos, but pianos in reasonable working order needing=20 > some attention. >=20 > While I liked some of your ideas in making determinations, in my mind=20 > your comments above here tend to negate one's ability to even=20 > consider make such decisions. Maybe you didn't mean to say that, but=20 > to not play the piano seems to negate one's ability to know if one=20 > type of piano plays better than another. If I am not mistaken, wasn't there a PTG survey done a few years back = that reported that 40% of PTG members do not play piano? I could be = wrong, but I think I heard that. Anyone? If true, I'd hate to think that = 40% of techs can't tell if one piano plays well and another plays = poorly. =20 > Such a generalized statement as, "... 15 year old Kimball consoles=20 > play and sound like a dream compared to old beaters." seems kind of=20 > an unrealistic, especially since you, yourself, have qualified you=20 > don't even play. Only having been in this business for 4 years now, I am certainly still = on the steep end of the learning curve. And I definitely do not play = piano. I could not even play Jingle Bells (well, maybe after practicing = a few hours). I took organ lessons when I was a kid. But I have been = banging on pianos for 4 years - I can run up and down the keyboard doing = various scales and such - I think you get a feel for the keys after a = while. I think my ability (and likely most others with a similar = background) to distinguish between a good concert prep on a good piano = and a fair concert prep on the same piano is probably close to = non-existent. And I would say a large part of that is because I am not a = good player. But my ability to distinguish between and make = recommendations regarding a very good condition 15 year old console and = a typically worn out 85 year old upright - well, let's just say it ain't = rocket science. I think it is always an asset to be able to play piano for the tech. But = I have met quite a few very accomplished techs that do not play. I think = it can be a bit like being blind - you learn other ways to do or feel = the same thing. Also, I think the area of piano technology one specializes in weighs in = on the benefits of playing. Again, playing will always be an asset. But = I suspect playing would be more important to the concert tech than to = the rebuilder. =20 > In my opinion learning to play the piano to some degree is a must to=20 > increase one's awareness concerning such matters as to advising what=20 > someone else should do in their life with their piano needs. >=20 > There are some older uprights that play and sound just fine, and it=20 > would be fool hardy to replace them unnecessarily just because they=20 > might need some repairs, with a smaller entry level type console that=20 > can in some situations fall well short of the mark. Absolutely. That's why I specified "old beaters". I tuned a 1908 Pfiefer = upright this morning and a 1971 S&S M (original owner) this afternoon. = In every category, the upright would blow the bushings off the Steinway. = (It was also the absolute nicest old upright I have ever seen - = condition was that of a well cared for 20 year old quality piano). And I = did "condemn" a 1960 Story & Clark console this morning. Someone poured = something on the tuning pins and string felt that made all the string = super rusty. About 25% of the strings were already broke and the tuning = pins were loose. Time this console met its maker. I didn't even have to = play this one. > Also, there are numerous youngsters that are learning every day on=20 > "old beaters", that are incredible players and just love playing what=20 > they have, and would be sorely disappointed and discouraged with a=20 > small console. Yes, and I'm sure somewhere there is a Nobel Peace Prize winner that = grew up in poverty in an abusive home, bla, bla, bla. Just my opinion = then, but any very good condition console will be better to play than an = old beater upright with bobbling hammers, tubby bass strings, zinging = dampers (if they work at all), super inconsistent tone from note to = note, etc. That's all I'm trying to say. Nothing too earth shattering = here I should think. > There are no hard and fast rules when it comes to the needs of=20 > individual families and their pianos. Evaluation of such things is a=20 > tender mercy. Absolutely. > Keith McGavern > Registered Piano Technician > Oklahoma Chapter 731 > Piano Technicians Guild > USA > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/ae/be/e1/33/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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