This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Brekne=20 To: Pianotech=20 Sent: November 24, 2002 9:48 AM Subject: Re: S&S D Duplex Delwin D Fandrich wrote:=20 .... Where he notes differences are=20 1) The dish cauled assembly will immediatly become stressed when = released from the call, where as the flat panel will not.=20 2) An asymetrical spherical curvature which is desirable can be = easily achieved with the dished cauled assembly and practically = impossible with the flat panel.=20 3 The crown achieved with the dish cauled assembly will be = stronger and more stable then with the flat pannel.=20 4 The dish cauled assembly is more sensitive to being over = stressed by too much downbearing. I would take issue with #3 and #4. Assuming the ribs start out flat = and are not machine crowned in any way, ultimately both are = compression-crowned and depend on the ability of the wood fibers to = resist the force of compression. It doesn't matter if the force comes = from having been pressed in a dished caul or from taking on moisture = after having been dried to some very low moisture. It is still = compression and the wood cell structure reacts the same way. =20 Yes, but isnt there some initial cross grain compression in the panel = and tension in the ribs fresh out of the caul (dished caul variant) ? I = mean why else would the panel assume an initial crown before it takes on = humidity if not because the ribs are trying to restraighten themselves = but are prevented in doing so. It would seem if this is the case that = both issues # 3 and # 4 would be true then, tho it would also seem that = this would increase the likelyhood of exceeding what compression levels = the wood can handle when downbearing is added into the picture... no ?=20 In my experience most of those using the straight rib/curved caul = method do not dry their panels as much in the mistaken belief that this = will reduce the amount of compression stress on the wood fibers. It does = not. If, once both ribbed soundboard assemblies are at the same EMC, the = ultimate amount of crown is the same then the amount of internal = compression must be (and is) the same. That is, assuming that the = ribbing is also the same. If the moisture content of the wood in each panel is the same at press = time then the assembly that was pressed into the curved caul(s) will end = up with more crown (initially) because of the extra internal compression = developed as the panels take on moisture. (The ribs want to straighten = out and the panel wants to expand beyond its dried state.) This will = create even more internal compression and, ultimately, an earlier onset = of wood fiber compression and compression set. I.e., earlier = catastrophic failure. Del ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/88/93/48/12/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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