This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi all, I thought more about how to time sustain while taking my morning shower = (ordinarily a very productive time for me). It occurs to me that the = best way to do it is electronically -- with a simple circuit made just = for that purpose. Many of you work at universities, and you could = probably find a departmental electronics technician who could put = together such a circuit on a breadboard in no more than an hour or two. = Some of you may know enough about electronics to do it yourselves. As = for myself, I once maintained an electonics test bench and = designed/built these sorts of circuits, but I've been downsizing, and = most of that stuff is either given away or stored in boxes. I won't be = able to do this in the forseeable future. Anyway, here's a description of the circuit. This is very elementary = stuff, and any electronics tech should know how to put these circuits = together out of no more than a few dollars in parts (not counting the = breadboard, which you would borrow): There would be two op-amp circuits with 100-fold (40 dB) differences in = gain. Inputs to both would be capacitively coupled from the same = microphone. (An adjustable-gain preamp circuit would be nice here.) = Outputs from the two amps would be capacitively coupled to two unity = gain op amps ("voltage followers." Outputs from the voltage followers = would then be quarter-wave rectified and low-pass filtered, so as to = yield an approximately DC output. (i.e. diode, serial with resistor, = feeding to one lead on a capacitor, with the other lead grounded). = Although this voltage wouldn't be RMS, it would be "similar" and would = summate energy not only only from the fundamental but also from the = harmonics. Those who want true RMS can possibly find specialized V^2 = amplifiers, but that's a bit expensive/weird/exotic. Feed the outputs = of those circuits to two comparator circuits that would detect a voltage = threshold. (Assuming the 100:1 gain is accurate, the threshold voltage = should be the same for both the high- and low-gain circuits.) Finally, = feed the outputs of the comparators to logic circuit that would output H = when the high-gain circuit's output is H and the low-gain circuit's = output is L. This could be done with an XOR chip, I think. Use this = output to trigger a millisecond timer (e.g. an old Hunter, probably = available for loan from the junk pile of any dept of psychology). How to use it: (1) Hook a soundboard mic to the circuit's input. To avoid = constructive/destructive interference effects, mute two of the three = unisons of the note being tested, both in the main *and* duplex = sections. (2) Play a note loudly enough to exceed the low-gain circuit's threshold = (loudly enough that the timer won't run immediately. (3) As the amplitude falls, the output signal of the low-gain circuit = will fall below threshold, and the timer will start running. The sound = may "warble" a bit over the threshold, resulting in the timer starting, = stopping, starting, stopping, and then running. That's OK, because the = same thing will happen when the timer shuts off. (4) As the amplitude falls further, the output signal of the high-gain = circuit will also fall below threshold, cutting off the timer -- again = probably with some warbling, which is OK. (5) The 40 dB decay time can then be read in ms. Assuming a linear = falloff (and I don't know if this is a valid assumption), the 6 dB = falloff (i.e. amplitude half-time) would the 40 dB decay time divided by = 6.67. If decay is nonlinear, then just report the 40 dB decay and try = to reference it to some initial SPL value. With regard to SPL, 99% of = the world has no clue that an SPL reading is utterly useless unless it = is referenced to a distance from the sound source. Owing to the "large" = sound producing area of the piano and the complex nature of its = acoustics, I would probably put the meter on a soft blanket on the floor = beneath the midpoint of the "strip" of soundboard immediately under the = string, with the mic pointed straight up and the piano lid closed. = That's probably as reproduceable as you're going to get. For those who aren't knowledgeable in electronics, don't worry. This = isn't neary as comlicated as it sounds. It's a very easy project for = some electronics technician. Look in the following departments: = physics, any engineering, neurobiology, psychology, RTF, possibly even = music (???). Peace, Sarah ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/d0/9a/e8/18/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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