>Yes, but the Allen bolt sure keeps the school kids out of the pianos! Sort of. A few years back, a music department head asked me to "fix" one. Someone had, in spite of the front pins, managed to lift the lid. You know, if it doesn't move the first time - lunge harder. The lid was floating, supported by the bent rear brackets, and bobbing up and down like the head of one of those mindless dashboard toys, an inch or so above the front panel. I thought it was kind of cute just like that, but I went back later and installed hinges at his request. Nothing keeps school kids out of anything unless 24/7 armed guards are watching.. Ron N
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