Ed - I hardly need another list in my life, but, just the same, could you give the address? Thanks - David Skolnik At 08:54 PM 03/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Greetings all, > Some of you by now have seen or read the Stuart Isacoff book >"Temperament" . The members of the "Tuning" list have been having a bit of >spar over it, and the following post was sent in by J. Reinhard. It is a >sentence by sentence of a small portion of the book. The quote is the first >line, Johnny's response, marked with the ----, follows each of Isacoff's >sentences. > Just another look at the topic! >Regards, >Ed Foote RPT > > From the Tuning list: >BY JOHNNY REINHARD > >Isacoff Errors p. 216-217 with the text appearing as in the book, though > >sentence by sentence: > > >Equal temperament was not, however, the only tuning proposed to > >accommodate this new musical trend. > >----The wrong implication as Werckmeister preceded ET on keyboards > > >Werckmeister developed an irregular temperament that came to be known as well > >temperament. > >-----Werckmeister called it, and likely named it well temperament. > > >In Werckmeister's well-tempered tuning, certain keys were more in tune than > >others, but none were so out of tune as to be unplayable. > >-----No key were was more dissonant than Pythagorean, which was still heard > >in the culture. > > >Therefore, as a musical work moved from one key center to another, the shift > >would become blatant: the more far-reaching the displacement, the more > >grating the harmonies. > >-----Not blatant at all, at least most people do not register any difference > >at all. And there is nothing grating other than a modern predisposition. > >Isacoff clearly has not heard the tuning. > > >This variegation a kind of perspective through audible shading was seized > >upon as a good thing by opponents of equal temperament, who saw in > >Werckmeister's system the advantage of a built-in musical syntax. > >-----This happens after Werckmeister and after Bach, not during the Baroque. > > >Changes in a piece s scales and harmonies were now overlaid with an added > >expressive element: a dramatic change in the quality of sound, depending on > >which tones the music revolved around at a given moment. > >-----Baroque composers were careful not to overexpose the foreign keys or > >chords. Here Isacoff is at the tip of the iceberg regarding its potential > >expressivity. > > >(Of course, this change would only occur on keyboard instruments; strings and > >woodwinds were left to pursue their own musical grammars.) > >-----Poppycock. Woodwinds always played, along with the strings of the > >Baroque, with the ever present keyboard. There is no separate grammar. > > >Advocates claimed for well temperament the bonus of giving each key its own > >character; but for many, subjecting a keyboard to gradations of in-and > >out-of-tuneness offered little in the way of musical value. > >-----This is ignorance of the value of key character. It shows up the value > >for melody ala the Rousseau bit since the ecstatic free nature of melody is > >better represented. And more in the way of musical value, not less. > > >Indeed, Werckmeister himself eventually became an advocate for equal > >temperament. > >-----This is a lie. Werckmeister supported his chromatic tuning throughout > >his entire life, as I have previously exposed on this list. > > >The German critic and composer Friedrich Wilhelm Marpurg who, at the request > >of the heirs of Bach, wrote a preface for a new edition of the master's Art > >of Fugue offered a terse critique of the well-tempered system in 1776: > >Diversity in the character of the keys, he wrote, will serve only to increase > >a diversity of bad sounds in the performance. > >-----Marpurg was the director of the lottery and a bitter man. He is writing > >against Kirnberger (who was supported by CPE Bach and others). > > >There is controversy to this day over whether Bach preferred equal or well > >temperament. Some theorists contend that there is internal evidence in his > >music differences in the way he handled different keys to suggest he had well > >temperament in mind. > >-----Yet there is little by Isacoff to represent the other side fairly. > > >(One modern scholar insists that he has broken the code of Bach's secret > >tuning by unraveling the images in the composer's personal seal, which > >contained seven points and five dashes. However, his secret solution > >conflicts with statements about temperament made by musicians in Bach's > >circle.) > >-----Rather crude not to mention Herbert's name. Why not indicate what > >conflicts there were with statements in Bach's circle? > > >There is as much evidence on the other side: Bach's biographer Johann > >Nikolaus Forkel reported, for example, that Bach moved so subtly through the > >keys that listeners never noticed the change; this suggests equal > >temperament. > >-----And yet Forkel is one of the clearest that Bach is not equal > >temperament. None of this proves that Bach used anything different than > >Werckmeister. Only Isacoff is suggesting ET. > > >His obituary made a similar comment about the artful way in which he tuned > >his instruments > >-----And tuning Werckmeister is MUCH faster than tuning 12-tET > >
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