This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Richard B. wrote: > I find it just as meaningless to accuse this list of being a > bunch of lonely heart socialites as I find just about any of > the other irrational ravings about politics, OT humour, or > so called piano related issues. Nor would I miss out for a > minute on all the entertainment I get from reading some of > our more prolific humourists on this list... Roger, Ron N, > Carl, and others. I'll go with that, except for politics. Richard B. added: > What an > unbearably boring bunch we would be if we cant kid around, > throw a few broadsides at each other, leave the arena for > short interludes or the rest of it. Absolutely. I'm there 99%. Richard B. went on though: > If we were to accept what apparenty Richards definition of > garbage is in this, then what should we think of conventions > where our community behaviour is nearly identical to what we > find on the list ? We go in and out of pure piano technical > talk all the time and boy am I gratefull we do.=20 Here is where I gotta depart from ya. Yes, at conventions "We go in and = out of pure piano technical talk all the time...", but the difference is = that stuff we go public with is humorous or curious. It is not political = or religious. Go to a Roger Jolly class. Humor abounds. Its great. What = Richard Snelson was focusing on is the political and religious stuff = that gets posted on the list. How he comes across a post that is either = inflammatory to the right or left and gets his day off on the wrong = foot. I could not agree more. And yes, we will talk political at the = conventions. But not often. And only one-on-one, or at most in a very = small group. Cute, curious, humorous off-topic stories, yes. Political and/or = religious? Please NO, not in THIS, piano-related public forum.=20 I also find myself getting quite infuriated that some people can think = the way I read they do in some of these posts. I want to scream back at = their outrageously warped views. But I usually don't, because I don't = want to contribute to all this crud. Do it like we would do at the = convention - one-on-one in the hallway or bar - email privately. Like = the cow thing. Go to your next appointment with the average Mrs. Jones. Is it proper, = wise, polite, good business or funny to bring up politics or religion in = a manner that states your position and suggests that other views are = perhaps not as valid (or worse)? I can't imagine anyone is terribly = successful if they make a habit out of doing that. I think it would be a = good thing for all on this list to extend each other the same courtesy = on this list. Why don't we post about sex? I like sex. I like to talk about sex. Why = don't we post about our personal preferences? This subject seems to be = rather taboo on this list. Why? For some reason, no one seems to want to = cross that boundary. Why? There are some very conservative views on this = list. How about homosexuality. There's a pretty hot topic that would be = fun! Shouldn't we stir up the pot? Yes, we should. I think it would be = great - at the bar, in the hallway, on a sex-or-whatever related list. = Not on this piano-related list where it would be sure to hurt and = infuriate. Expressing personal views about sex, politics and religion on = this list will only serve to divide participants on this list. I just = don't see where any good can come of it. Society does indeed have social = norms and things that are taboo. Some of these are good, and part of = what make us human. Let's just leave sex, politics and religion on this = list as being taboo. But cheap spinet bashing is not taboo. That's OK. Even Steinway bashing = is fair game (not that I would ever do that though)! This list is such a good thing. Political and religious posts turn many, = if not most, of us off. I suppose a few enjoy the exchange. I suspect = not many. I don't. Save it for the convention hallway. I hate to see = valuable contributors to this list get discouraged and unsubscribe. It = is simply everyone's loss. Especially newishbies like me! :-) Terry Farrell =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:44 AM Subject: Re: Richard Oliver Snelsons Unhappiness > I find it just as meaningless to accuse this list of being a > bunch of lonely heart socialites as I find just about any of > the other irrational ravings about politics, OT humour, or > so called piano related issues. Nor would I miss out for a > minute on all the entertainment I get from reading some of > our more prolific humourists on this list... Roger, Ron N, > Carl, and others. >=20 > If we were to accept what apparenty Richards definition of > garbage is in this, then what should we think of conventions > where our community behaviour is nearly identical to what we > find on the list ? We go in and out of pure piano technical > talk all the time and boy am I gratefull we do. What an > unbearably boring bunch we would be if we cant kid around, > throw a few broadsides at each other, leave the arena for > short interludes or the rest of it. Indeed and contrary to > what some would claim, things have pretty much always been > the same here and a short survey of archives will bear that > out. >=20 > We designate posts OT so folks can simply delete them, and > that should easily go for the archives or digest. Nobody > likes all of what we see around us... that doesnt mean we > simply call garbage on the human race and decide to leave. > Turn the channel and spare us your personal condemnations. >=20 > -- > Richard Brekne > RPT, N.P.T.F. > UiB, Bergen, Norway > mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no > http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html >=20 > ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/fb/9a/d1/9d/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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