Fw: New and improved Steinway parts.Like Em

[Erwinpiano]

  Rodger

I meant to say 16.5 mm knuckle placement. Not 16mm!  oops

    Dale Erwin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erwinpiano" <Erwinpiano@email.msn.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 11:53 AM
Subject: Fw: New and improved Steinway parts.Like Em


> Hey Rodger
>
>    Having installed just about every body's Stwy parts and ,many of some,
> frustration has led me to use about a dozen sets so far of the new
improved
> factory made wippens. I have had to do considerable amounts of traveling
on
> some sets( an hour or more) but the trade off is that it is a virtual
> replication of the older style wippen.(pre- 1984 I think) It seems to have
> similar spring sizes so adjusting tension is good ,not a great struggle.
The
> weight is in the 18 to 19 gram range which is as light as the old original
> ones.  Yes! The new ones are also made of maple(yeah).  If you will
install
> one side by side to an old one and regulate that note  the reg button ends
> up about the same place as does the drop screw( not to low/high ). The
> capstan is I think ever so slightly higher. This ,as far as I've been able
> to determine ,is due to the wippen body height being slightly (ever so
> slightly) shorter. Any net result of this would be better acceleration.( o
> to 60 in whatever)
>   By the way the factory provided Renner wippen is also a great part,
> matches the new improved (would use them in a second and have) .It has the
> angled wippen heel and one peice body and no separate glued on heel too.
> The springs are a bit different but fine. The weight as on all Renner
> wippens is in the 20 to 21.5 gram range which can be a consideration( more
> weight in the system)  Unfortunately you can not buy that particular
Renner
> wippen from Renner U.S.A.which is a huge disappointment to me.  The cost
of
> factory parts is higher but the frustration of trying to regulate parts
that
> don't really match is WAY worse to me. I've tried ( Been there done that.)
>
>    I am very pleased with the results of the wippens but have not used the
> shanks as the Renner parts ( to me) from Renner U.s.a. or the factory
> supplied runners are so consistent,reliable and geometrically sound.  So
I'm
> using a combination of parts and 80% of the time it is the 16 mm
> (Renner)knuckle placement. The actions weigh off well and feel very much
> like the old actions when they were right.
>
> Hope that helps-see you in Reno
>
>    Dale Erwin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jolly roger" <baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 12:37 AM
> Subject: New and improved Steinway parts.
>
>
> > Any feed back on the new and improved steinway parts would be greatly
> > appreciated.
> >
> > regards Roger
> >
> >
>
>