Appt. Danger

[Kevin E. Ramsey]

    In most states here in the USA, unlawful entry into an occupied dwelling
is considered grounds for the use of deadly force if the occupant fears for
his/her life. Imagine a little old lady who doesn't want to open the door of
her son's house for a man carrying one or more toolcases.
    If you live in a city where doors are commonly left unlocked, I'd be
calling out "piano tuner, hello......." quite a lot as I approached this
situation.


Kevin E. Ramsey
ramsey@extremezone.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clyde Hollinger" <cedel@supernet.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Appt. Danger


> Terry,
>
> You may be right, but turn the tables for a moment.  Suppose *you* were
the one
> who had forgotten an appointment with (for example) the plumber, and went
away,
> and left the door unlocked.  Would you sue him, knowing that any law
enforcement
> officer will bawl you out for going away and leaving the door unlocked?  I
> wouldn't; I'd be embarrassed that I forgot.
>
> Can it be called unlawful entry when both parties had agreed for you to
provide
> that service at that time?  I wouldn't think so.  And I know it can't be
called
> burglary, which is unlawful entry with the intent to commit a crime.  I
strongly
> doubt a client will sue, because in court they wouldn't have a leg to
stand on.
>
> But I appreciate your concern.  Don't worry about sounding like my mother,
or
> even preaching.  <G>  We should all look out for each other a little more,
I
> reckon.  And I don't live in Mayberry; I live in Lititz.
>
> Regards,
> Clyde
>
> Farrell wrote:
>
> > Hi Clyde. I was hoping someone else would respond to your post. I hate
> > sounding like someone's mother, but I truly believe this should be
> > addressed.
> >
> > > Then there is the situation when the client forgot the appointment.
If it
> > is
> > > someone I know would want me to just go in and do it, I try all the
doors
> > before
> > > giving up.
> >
> > I don't mean to preach, but WHOA! Do you live in Mayberry? Even in
Mayberry
> > you would likely run the risk of being sued, or charges of unlawful
entry
> > being pressed. I realize you specify that this might occur "if it is
someone
> > I know would want me to just go in and do it", but IMHO you or anyone
else
> > doing this is taking a big chance (maybe only if it were a relative or
the
> > closest friend - anyone else, no-way). Anything from an accident, to a
sick
> > mother-in-law staying at the home, to just-cleaned-and-yet-wet-carpets,
to
> > who knows what could happen - my God, there could be the 13-year-old
> > daughter that had just been raped and was hiding in the bedroom while
you
> > were there for an hour or two. Sorry for sounding like the proverbial
> > mother, but for what it is worth, I would never, never do such a thing,
and
> > I think anyone else would be well advised to keep the same policy.
Anything
> > else is simply dangerous.
> >
> > Terry Farrell
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Clyde Hollinger" <cedel@supernet.com>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 6:38 PM
> > Subject: Magnetic door signs
> >
> > > Friends,
> > >
> > > I think I got only a few new clients with my door signs, but there is
> > another
> > > good reason to have them.  Sometimes we arrange for me to tune the
piano
> > even if
> > > no one is home.  Either they leave a door unlocked for me or tell me
where
> > to get
> > > a key.  I am more comfortable having the signs identify me, if any
> > neighbors see
> > > me go into a house where they know no one is home.
> > >
> > > Then there is the situation when the client forgot the appointment.
If it
> > is
> > > someone I know would want me to just go in and do it, I try all the
doors
> > before
> > > giving up.  Again, it's much better for neighbors to know who that is
over
> > there,
> > > than to wonder if they should be calling the police about an intruder.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Clyde
> > >
> > > Tvak@AOL.COM wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm going to look into those magnetic car-door signs that
> > > > Warren Fisher has had so much success with.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>