Chris, Thanks for the explanation....I guess this morning I was really foggy when I wrote that. But are you absolutely, positively sure there was no veneer? I would have guess a Steinway that new would have been veneered even if it was only 1 ply. jeannie -----Original Message----- From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf Of Chris Gregg Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:29 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: RE: Re: sun-bleached lid Jeannie, Yes, this is the original lid from 1900. The lid had split and was nailed together on the underside with a piece of wood. Needles to say, it has since been repaired, and you would never know. Chris At 08:41 AM 1/17/2001 -0800, you wrote: >Chris, >Was this the original lid? What do you mean it was nailed together? I'm >having trouble understanding what you mean. I'm just a little groggy this >morning....not enough sun. > >jeannie > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf >Of Chris Gregg >Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:09 PM >To: pianotech@ptg.org >Subject: Re: Re: sun-bleached lid > > >Stan, > > Have you considered veneering the lid. It is not that difficult a job >and you should be able to find a match quite easily for the piano. One >thing to check out first, is there veneer on the lid? I know that my >model A has a solid mahogany lid. How do I know? Because it was nailed >together with one by fours when I bought it. > >Chris > >At 08:06 PM 1/16/2001 -0500, you wrote: >>Golly Gee. I don't think Mark Cramer from Brandon University could ever >>offend me. He was such a gracious host for our group almost one year ago >now >>while we played with soundboards! >> >>Anyway, NO. I don't have a proven method for bleaching out a lid. BUT I do >>have a work or two of warning. I have used a variety of wood bleaches in >>marine applications. I have always used them on solid planks of mahogany, >>etc. The bleach is really hard on the wood. Really blasts the grain out >from >>the surface, etc. You need to soak the wood pretty good usually. I would be >>a bit hesitant using it on a veneered lid. I would be afraid it would just >>chew the veneer right off. >> >>If you go that rout, you might try starting with a highly watered down >>mixture and use it sparingly. You can always hit it again with more bleach >>if desired. >> >>Also, I know it is generally not a good idea to sand on a veneer much, but >>you might want to try a small spot and see whether a moderate amount of >>sanding will get you through the sun-bleached zone. Often offending >colors - >>stains, sun-bleaching - don't go all the way through the veneer. Obviously, >>be real careful with this approach also! >> >>Who owns the piano? Did you tell them that all real pianos are finished in >>ebony??????? >> >>Terry Farrell >>Piano Tuning & Service >>Tampa, Florida >>mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Stan Kroeker" <stan@pianoexperts.mb.ca> >>To: <pianotech@ptg.org> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 4:11 PM >>Subject: Fwd: Re: sun-bleached lid >> >> >>> Dear list: >>> >>> Not sure what the protocol is for messages forwarded from >>> non-subscribers. If it doesn't offend you, then please consider >>> sharing your experiences with the following refinishing problem. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Stan Kroeker >>> Registered Piano Technician >>> >>> Mark Cramer wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi list, >>> > I'm having a 1911 mahogany 'O' refininshed. The lid has been left open >>all >>> > it's life, such that half the lid is red, and the other half blond. I >>know >>> > you've all seen this before, this is the vintage where the legs are >>> > grain-painted. >>> > >>> > Does anyone have a succesful (proven) approach for blending (bleaching) >>the >>> > two halves? >>> > >>> > thanks, >>> > Mark Cramer, >>> > Brandon University >>> >> >> >> > http://www.cadvision.com/cgregg > > > > > http://www.cadvision.com/cgregg
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