Temperament, A pianist responds

[David Love]

Sorry, my post got sent before I was done.  To add, the piece in question is
Beethoven op 90, 2nd movement in E major.  If you examine it, I think you
will find that the note A# appears more times than you can count.

David Love


----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Roberts" <kpiano@goldrush.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: December 11, 2001 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Temperament, A pianist responds


> Excuse me, but A# is not in the key of E. It is the flatted fifth or tri
> tone ( a forbidden sound by the Church). It is used mostly in blues
> progressions as part of a lead or riff scale. I don't know what Beethoven
> piece you are talking about but I didn't think use of the b5th was common
> for his day.
> Keith Roberts
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Love" <davidlovepianos@earthlink.net>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 1:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Temperament, A pianist responds
>
>
> > Though you are correct about the minute difference between the E-G#
third
> in
> > the two temperaments, it is not only the character of the tonic that
> > matters.  A piece in the key of E major, as you know, does not only play
> the
> > tonic chord.  In the key of E, the dominant (B major) and its dominant
(F#
> > major, V of V) are generously used.  In Broadwood's the B-D# third is
17.6
> > cents , in Young's it is 19.6 cents.  The F#-A# third in Broadwood's is
> also
> > 17.6 cents, but in Young's it increases to 21.5 cents.  Those thirds
> > contribute substantially to the character of E major.
> >
> > David Love
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <A440A@AOL.COM>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: December 11, 2001 11:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: Temperament, A pianist responds
> >
> >
> > > David writes:
> > > <<So let's go to the second movement in E major.  This key in WT is
not
> a
> > >
> > > terribly tranquil sounding key.  Rather, it is fairly active even in
the
> > >
> > > mild WT's such as Broadwood's.  In the Young temperament, it is a very
> > >
> > > active, read dissonant, sounding key. <<
> > >
> > >       Hmm,  Now I am confused about what tunings you're basing your
> > responses
> > > on.   There is only .2 cents difference difference between this third
in
> > the
> > > Young(17.8cents) vs. Broadwood's "best" tuning(17.6). This difference
is
> > > totally insignificant.  Is it possible that  your perception of
> > "dissonance"
> > > is being affected by something other than the width of the intervals?
> > > Wondering,
> > > Ed Foote
> > >
> >
> >
>
>