Hi, Terry. It seems that every time the Anderson's upgrade their program, they increase the stretch that it calculates. This console probably has a very high degree of inharmonicity, and that will give you too much stretch. I haven't really had any chance to work with the new SAT III, but the way I get around this with the SAT II, is to lower the values of the A and C figures, until I get close to what I want. I also use a kind of "direct interval measurement" method where I can pretty much ignore what the SAT tells me, and tune the way that I want it tuned no matter what the machine is trying to tell me. From B2 down to the bottom, the SAT tunes f6/3 octaves, also. I find that often spinets and some consoles will not accept that. As I go down into the bass, I always check my double octaves, and if they're beating too much, I know that I have to narrow them by bringing the bass up. Some spinets and consoles seem to want a whole lot stretch, in spite of their higher FAC numbers; some sound best when they have just about no artificial stretch at all. And remember, the SAT tunes 4/2 here, 6/3 there, and some pianos just don't fit into that assumption of piano scales. In any case, good thing you were using your ears and brain; some lesser tuners don't. Kevin E. Ramsey ramsey@extremezone.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 6:22 PM Subject: SAT III Question > Every once in a while (it happened the other day on a Knabe console about > 15 - 30 years old) I'll tune a piano that seems to defy the SAT. I do the > FAC in the normal manner, but when I start tuning and checking octaves, I > find that the calculated octave stretch above A4 is way too much. I find I > need to enter a Double Octave Beat (DOB) factor of up to -2.0 to settle the > calculated tuning down enough for my tastes. This is after measuring the "A" > and "C" values several times - and even notes next to them. Anyone have a > thought on why this might occur? > > Terry Farrell > Piano Tuning & Service > Tampa, Florida > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com >
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