Politics!

[Richard Brekne]

Robin Blankenship wrote:

> And, you will find hard core conservatives in San Francisco, too. But, there
> IS a very deep philosophical/political/moral chasm between present day
> liberals and conservatives. The arrogance of the former is doubly sad
> because it is also blind.

No one is so blind as he who points a finger at his fellow humans. If there is
arrogance in one camp... you will most certainly find it in equal portion in the
other. That goes ditto for the blindness.

>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Ilvedson <ilvey@jps.net>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 1:04 PM
> Subject: RE: Politics!
>
> > I just looked at the map of the election results this morning and all
> those
> > rural areas had lots of votes from democrats.
> >
> > David I.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf
> > > Of Robin Blankenship
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 9:34 AM
> > > To: pianotech@ptg.org
> > > Subject: Re: Politics!
> > >
> > >
> > > The current electoral divide is clearly visible on maps. The gulf
> between
> > > liberals and conservatives is much more profound and deeply felt that
> most
> > > realize. It is the difference between those packed into urban areas and
> > > willing to forgo freedom for conformity and safety versus those in more
> > > rural environments who treasure freedom above life itself. A split of
> the
> > > country into two separate republics looms on the horizon. It is almost
> > > inevitable. It does not have to mean war. That is up to the liberals.
> The
> > > government is NOT God. It just acts that way.
> > >
> > > Robin Blankenship
> > > Sic Semper Tyrannis
> > > ("Thus Ever to Tyrannts" - the motto of the Commonwealth of Virginia)
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Richard Moody <remoody@midstatesd.net>
> > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 1:39 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Politics!
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > <<Looking at Fla in the postition to decide the out come of the
> > > > Presidential
> > > > > election only because of something called the Electoral College,
> even
> > > > after
> > > > > one candidate already has the the majority of popular votes, you
> gotta
> > > > > wonder "what the heck" but it ain't Jim B's fault.  ---ric>>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One good thing about the electoral college is that it
> > > disallows the more
> > > > > populous states to "outvote" the smaller states. With its massive
> > > > population
> > > > > in a popular vote election, a more populous state like
> > > California could
> > > > very
> > > > > easily dictate the national outcome of a low-voter-turnout election.
> > > > States
> > > > > have more representation under the electoral college system.
> > > >
> > > > I must ask why should "states" have more representation than
> > > the people in
> > > > presidential elections?  I don't vote as a state, I vote as a person.
> I
> > > > thought that was one thing that was settled in the Civil War,
> > > even though
> > > > the blood of my ancestors was shed  for "states rights".
> > > > >
> > > > > I think things will stay as they are because the constitution
> > > would have
> > > > to
> > > > > be amended. The present electoral college is probably the best
> system
> > > for
> > > > > our country made up of many states which vary greatly in population.
> > > Some
> > > > of
> > > > > the more conservative, smaller states do not want their voting power
> > > > reduced
> > > > > by the liberal "left" coasts.
> > > > >
> > > > > John Formsma
> > > > > Blue Mountain, MS
> > > >
> > > > And what about some of the more liberal smaller states who don't want
> > > their
> > > > "voting power" reduced by a giant conservative state like.... Texas
> > > > perhaps??
> > > >
> > > > Forget the "states" give the vote to the people.
> > > >
> > > > I say amend the Constitution.  The electoral college is the only
> reason
> > > why
> > > > this election isn't decided.    ---ric.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >

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Richard Brekne
RPT, N.P.T.F.
Bergen, Norway