Dear Ra Byn & Tara~
I strongly suggest getting in touch with Bill Spurlock and Fern
Henry...two of the most successful husband/wife tech teams around. Just a
thought.
San French
Santa Fe
At 01:45 PM 5/24/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>
>pianotech-digest Wednesday, May 24 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 477
>
>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 15:52:50 -0500
>From: "Ra Byn James Taylor" <btnaudio@flash.net>
>Subject: Re: Husband & Wife teams
>
>I've been convincing my wife that she should learn to tune pianos. She asked
>me if its something she could do to which I said YES. She would like to know
>how many tuning couples there are out there. Maybe also the ladies on the
>list could send her their thoughts on the matter.
>
>Her email address is
>
>tatadawn@juno.com
>
>Her name is Tara - 25
>
>Thanks in advance!!!
>
>ra byn james - 28
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 18:47:03 -0400
>From: nhunt@jagat.com (Newton Hunt)
>Subject: Re: Maximum tension
>
>> The strings all break at the same pitch.
>> Execpt # 12 and below and #22 and above.
>
>I accept that 12.5 to 21.5. The others are not that
>important anyway.
>
>The point of this is that if the speaking length is too long
>for a given pitch changing the wire size will not change at
>which pitch the string breaks.
>
>A case in point; I took the string lengths from a piano for
>rescaling before the [piano was dismantled. After new
>block, new board the strings started breaking in the high
>treble. Taking new measurement I discovered the rebuilder
>(not me) mislocated the treble bridge by a considerable
>amount backways. Fortunately I could prove this with the
>previous measurements so the rebuilder had to relocate the
>bridge a bit. Changing wire size would NOT have solved this
>problem.
>
>Another case to point: some pianos being made in a foreign
>country had a perpetual treble string breakage problem. It
>was discovered that the bridges were located too far from
>the capo bar so the tension was way past safe breaking %.
>Changing string sizes would not have solved this problem
>either. The manufacturer had to change the design.
>
>Those are the points I was trying to make.
>
>Than.
>
> Newton
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 18:52:27 -0400
>From: nhunt@jagat.com (Newton Hunt)
>Subject: Re: Maximum tension
>
>> As to what pitch this would be depends entirely
>> on the speaking length of the wire.
>
>Ah, but the _friction_ my dear friend, changes these figures
>all out of shape. That is why we like 65-70%.
>
> Newton
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:50:26 EDT
>From: JIMRPT@AOL.COM
>Subject: Midnight Puzzler
>
>Hey here's a relatively easy one. :-)
>
>Piano: Sojin Grand
>
>Problem: Keys in the treble sticking occasionally and not always the same
>key(s).
>
>Symptoms: Key bushings were free and clear, balance holes were loose almost
>pully, whippen and hammer flanges free to very minor friction, sticking
>problem only in treble area but there was a 'slight' occasional ticking
noise
>on every key throughout the scale. The problem seemed to disappear with the
>action out of the piano, and before the cheek blocks and fallboard were
>reinstalled.
>
>Question: What it was? :-)
>Jim Bryant (FL)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:22:12 -0400
>From: "Phil Bondi" <tito@PhilBondi.com>
>Subject: RE: Midnight Puzzler
>
>..the action was too far back on the keybed causing the treble hammers to rub
>against the piece of wood that comes down from the sound board? - sorry - my
>terminology still needs work.
>
>Rook
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 23:54:42 EDT
>From: JIMRPT@AOL.COM
>Subject: Re: RE: Midnight Puzzler
>
>In a message dated 5/23/2000 11:38:16 PM, you wrote:
>
><<.the action was too far back on the keybed causing the treble hammers to
rub
>
>against the piece of wood that comes down from the sound board? - sorry - my
>
>terminology still needs work.
>
>Rook>>
>
>Phil;
>Uniform terminology unfortunately is not our strong suit but I know what you
>are talking about and that part(s) is called variously:
>cross bar, cross block, belly bar, belly rail and several other names :-)
>But your answer is BZZZZT......wrong. Good try though.
>Jim Bryant (FL)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 00:10:43 -0500
>From: "Dennis Benson" <dennisb@willmar.com>
>Subject: Re: Midnight Puzzler
>
>Was the key front hitting the key slip? Ticking can come from the plastic
>finish on asian pianos. and certainly would cause keys to occassionally
>stick depending on the key stroke force.
>
>Dennis RPT in Minnesota
>
>
>- -----Original Message-----
>From: JIMRPT@AOL.COM <JIMRPT@AOL.COM>
>To: pianotech@ptg.org <pianotech@ptg.org>
>Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 10:00 PM
>Subject: Midnight Puzzler
>
>
>>Hey here's a relatively easy one. :-)
>>
>>Piano: Sojin Grand
>>
>>Problem: Keys in the treble sticking occasionally and not always the same
>>key(s).
>>
>>Symptoms: Key bushings were free and clear, balance holes were loose almost
>>pully, whippen and hammer flanges free to very minor friction, sticking
>>problem only in treble area but there was a 'slight' occasional ticking
>noise
>>on every key throughout the scale. The problem seemed to disappear with the
>>action out of the piano, and before the cheek blocks and fallboard were
>>reinstalled.
>>
>>Question: What it was? :-)
>>Jim Bryant (FL)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:55:14 -0600
>From: Roger Jolly <baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca>
>Subject: Re: Midnight Puzzler
>
>Hi Jim,
> What is the DW to UW? But jacks too high, with excessive drop.
>as a guess.
>
>
>At 10:50 PM 23/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
>>Hey here's a relatively easy one. :-)
>>
>>Piano: Sojin Grand
>>
>>Problem: Keys in the treble sticking occasionally and not always the same
>>key(s).
>>
>>Symptoms: Key bushings were free and clear, balance holes were loose almost
>>pully, whippen and hammer flanges free to very minor friction, sticking
>>problem only in treble area but there was a 'slight' occasional ticking
>noise
>>on every key throughout the scale. The problem seemed to disappear with the
>>action out of the piano, and before the cheek blocks and fallboard were
>>reinstalled.
>>
>>Question: What it was? :-)
>>Jim Bryant (FL)
>>
>Roger Jolly
>Saskatoon, Canada.
>306-665-0213
>Fax 652-0505
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:31:06 -0700
>From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@jps.net>
>Subject: RE: Midnight Puzzler
>
>The hammer rest rail was tightened down too far and catching wippen springs
>and or wippens.
>
>David I.
>
>- -----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf
>Of JIMRPT@AOL.COM
>Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 7:50 PM
>To: pianotech@ptg.org
>Subject: Midnight Puzzler
>
>
>Hey here's a relatively easy one. :-)
>
>Piano: Sojin Grand
>
>Problem: Keys in the treble sticking occasionally and not always the same
>key(s).
>
>Symptoms: Key bushings were free and clear, balance holes were loose almost
>pully, whippen and hammer flanges free to very minor friction, sticking
>problem only in treble area but there was a 'slight' occasional ticking
>noise
>on every key throughout the scale. The problem seemed to disappear with the
>action out of the piano, and before the cheek blocks and fallboard were
>reinstalled.
>
>Question: What it was? :-)
>Jim Bryant (FL)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 22:05:16 -0400
>From: Bill Ballard <yardbird@sover.net>
>Subject: Re: Husband & Wife teams
>
>At 3:52 PM -0500 5/23/00, Ra Byn James Taylor wrote:
>>Maybe also the ladies on the
>>list could send her their thoughts on the matter.
>>Her name is Tara - 25
>>
>>ra byn james - 28
>
>Given the tender ages of both of you, I would have her sign a non-compete
>clause in the event of a divorce. Like the bumper sticker stays, "Stuff
>Happens".
>
>Bill Ballard
>
>"I'll play it and tell you what it is later...."
> ...........Miles Davis
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 05:38:21 -0500 (CDT)
>From: Conrad Hoffsommer <hoffsoco@martin.luther.edu>
>Subject: Re: Husband & Wife teams
>
>
>> Given the tender ages of both of you, I would have her sign a non-compete
>> clause in the event of a divorce. Like the bumper sticker stays, "Stuff
>> Happens".
>> Bill Ballard
>
>
>I'll drink to that.
>
>- --
>Conrad Hoffsommer -
>My pitiful story on request...
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:21:07 EDT
>From: JIMRPT@AOL.COM
>Subject: Re: Re: Midnight Puzzler
>
>In a message dated 5/24/2000 1:26:57 AM, Dennis wrote:
>
><<Was the key front hitting the key slip?>>
>
>Dennis, good guess ..but No that wasn't the problem.
>Jim Bryant (FL)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:23:54 EDT
>From: JIMRPT@AOL.COM
>Subject: Re: Re: Midnight Puzzler
>
>In a message dated 5/24/2000 1:58:59 AM, Roger wrote:
>
><<Hi Jim,
> What is the DW to UW? But jacks too high, with excessive drop.
>as a guess.>>
>
>Roger, nope, not even close my friend. :-)
>Jim Bryant (FL)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:26:02 EDT
>From: JIMRPT@AOL.COM
>Subject: Re: RE: Midnight Puzzler
>
>In a message dated 5/24/2000 2:02:22 AM, David I. wrote:
>
><<The hammer rest rail was tightened down too far and catching wippen springs
>
>and or wippens.>>
>
>David;
> No, not the problem but I did check for it first.
>Jim Bryant (FL)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 10:27:24 -0400
>From: "Doug Mahard" <nlm@csu.cted.net>
>Subject: Re: Midnight Puzzler
>
>Hi Jim,
>
>How about fall board to low in the installed position or glide bolt(s)
>adjusted to high.
>
>Doug Mahard
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 14:33:35 +0100
>From: Kristinn Leifsson <istuner@islandia.is>
>Subject: Goo
>
>I just finished cleaning rock hard caramel out from underneath top treble
>strings in a small grand. This piano had been standing in a mall for about
>ten months right in the middle of a fast food restaurant! That´s disgusting!
>I had to use something to get the caramel off the plate, I just used
>regular dish washing soap in a cloth.
>This was a new piano, and now it´s all scratched and ugly!
>"Hey, where should we put the food trays?" "Let´s put them on the piano,
>we´ll just wipe it off later!"
>
>People are stupid idiots!
>
>Kristinn Leifsson,
>Reykjavík, Iceland
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 10:41:25 -0400
>From: staytuned@idirect.com (John Lillico, RPT)
>Subject: Re: Midnight Puzzler
>
>>Hey here's a relatively easy one. :-)
>>
>>Piano: Sojin Grand
>>
>>Problem: Keys in the treble sticking occasionally and not always the same
>>key(s).
>>
>>
>>Question: What it was? :-)
>>Jim Bryant (FL)
>
>Man, do you have a problem here?
>
>I suspect a fallboard misalignment.
>
>Is ther a prize for being right.... like free convention registration?
>
>John Lillico, RPT
>Oakville, Ontario
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:31:50 -0700
>From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@jps.net>
>Subject: RE: Midnight Puzzler
>
>Jim,
>
>How about the key strip...catching the key buttons or something...
>
>David I.
>
>- -----Original Message-----
>From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf
>Of JIMRPT@AOL.COM
>Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 7:50 PM
>To: pianotech@ptg.org
>Subject: Midnight Puzzler
>
>
>Hey here's a relatively easy one. :-)
>
>Piano: Sojin Grand
>
>Problem: Keys in the treble sticking occasionally and not always the same
>key(s).
>
>Symptoms: Key bushings were free and clear, balance holes were loose almost
>pully, whippen and hammer flanges free to very minor friction, sticking
>problem only in treble area but there was a 'slight' occasional ticking
>noise
>on every key throughout the scale. The problem seemed to disappear with the
>action out of the piano, and before the cheek blocks and fallboard were
>reinstalled.
>
>Question: What it was? :-)
>Jim Bryant (FL)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 08:59:32 -0600
>From: Roger Jolly <baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca>
>Subject: Re: Midnight Puzzler
>
>Well Jim,
> you're never obvious with these teaser's, How about the
>wippen just ticking against the hammer rail, or drop screw leather a bit
>too long and doing the same thing.
>
>
>
>At 10:50 PM 23/05/00 -0400, you wrote:
>>Hey here's a relatively easy one. :-)
>>
>>Piano: Sojin Grand
>>
>>Problem: Keys in the treble sticking occasionally and not always the same
>>key(s).
>>
>>Symptoms: Key bushings were free and clear, balance holes were loose almost
>>pully, whippen and hammer flanges free to very minor friction, sticking
>>problem only in treble area but there was a 'slight' occasional ticking
>noise
>>on every key throughout the scale. The problem seemed to disappear with the
>>action out of the piano, and before the cheek blocks and fallboard were
>>reinstalled.
>>
>>Question: What it was? :-)
>>Jim Bryant (FL)
>>
>Roger Jolly
>Saskatoon, Canada.
>306-665-0213
>Fax 652-0505
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:18:43 -0500
>From: Conrad Hoffsommer <hoffsoco@martin.luther.edu>
>Subject: Room available for convention
>
>Friends,
>
>A room just opened up!
>
>I have just cancelled my reservation at the Hyatt for July 3-8. I will be
>rooming with an old friend (Bill Yick, whom I've known since 4th grade) .
>
>Call 1-703-418-1234 quickly and you may get it!
>
>Conrad
>
>
>Conrad Hoffsommer - Music Technician -mailto:hoffsoco@luther.edu
>Luther College, 700 College Drive, Decorah, Iowa 52101-1045
>Voice-(319)-387-1204 // Fax (319)-387-1076(Dept.office)
>
>Live such that when you die, even the undertaker will be sorry.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:00:49 -0600
>From: "Jonathan Adams" <jmadams@telusplanet.net>
>Subject: Re: Husband & Wife teams
>
>One technician does not need the permission of another to start up in this
>business. An existing technician does not own the market in a given area.
>Newcomers are free to compete for their market share. Why wouldn't this
>same reasoning apply to Ra Byn and Tara? Why can't they each be an
>independent contractor with their own business?
>
>I think that Tara should persue piano technology if she is interested.
>Although it will be convenient for her to seek help from Ra Byn along the
>way, I would encourage her to learn from as many different people and
>sources as she possibly can. There is a wealth of information as well as
>technicians who are happy to share what they know. This List is a great
>example of that.
>
>
>Stacy Adams
>PTG Associate
>
>
>> Given the tender ages of both of you, I would have her sign a non-compete
>> clause in the event of a divorce. Like the bumper sticker stays, "Stuff
>> Happens".
>>
>> Bill Ballard
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 13:15:49 +0000
>From: Michael Jorgensen <Michael.Jorgensen@cmich.edu>
>Subject: Re: Midnight Puzzler
>
>Jim,
> Could it be that the key end felts are just glancing the damper
levers due
>to severe action misalignment causing occasional knocking/ticking noises
of key
>ends on neighbors' damper levers or keys getting held up by them. Only
happens
>when the cheek block is in because the una chorda must be depressed to get
the
>bass end cheek block in on this particular piano?
>- -Mike
>
>Dang it, I forgot how to spell una corda.
>
>JIMRPT@AOL.COM wrote:
>
>> Hey here's a relatively easy one. :-)
>>
>> Piano: Sojin Grand
>>
>> Problem: Keys in the treble sticking occasionally and not always the same
>> key(s).
>>
>> Symptoms: Key bushings were free and clear, balance holes were loose almost
>> pully, whippen and hammer flanges free to very minor friction, sticking
>> problem only in treble area but there was a 'slight' occasional ticking
noise
>> on every key throughout the scale. The problem seemed to disappear with the
>> action out of the piano, and before the cheek blocks and fallboard were
>> reinstalled.
>>
>> Question: What it was? :-)
>> Jim Bryant (FL)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 19:14:07 +0200
>From: Brian Lawson <lawsonic@global.co.za>
>Subject: Re: Midnight Puzzler
>
>> Problem: Keys in the treble sticking occasionally and not always the same
>> key(s).
>>
>> Symptoms: Key bushings were free and clear, balance holes were loose
>almost
>> pully, whippen and hammer flanges free to very minor friction, sticking
>> problem only in treble area but there was a 'slight' occasional ticking
>noise
>> on every key throughout the scale. The problem seemed to disappear with
>the
>> action out of the piano, and before the cheek blocks and fallboard were
>> reinstalled.
>>
>> Question: What it was? :-)
>> Jim Bryant (FL)
>
>The absurd answer - a mouse under the keys, when you pulled out the action
>the mouse fell out :)
>
>Brian Lawson
>PTG Assc, MPT.
>Johannesburg, South Africa
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 11:19:12 -0600
>From: "Robert Moffatt" <moffattr@cadvision.com>
>Subject: Re: Goo
>
>- ----- Original Message -----
>From: Kristinn Leifsson <istuner@islandia.is>
>
>>Subject: Goo
>
>
>>This piano had been standing in a mall for about
>> ten months right in the middle of a fast food restaurant! That´s
>disgusting!
>
>> People are stupid idiots!
>>
>> Kristinn Leifsson,
>> Reykjavík, Iceland
>
>I'm sure you're referring to the "people" who placed the piano
>in that environment??
>
>Bob
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 13:39:28 EDT
>From: JIMRPT@AOL.COM
>Subject: Re: Midnight Puzzler
>
>In a message dated 5/24/2000 10:43:41 AM, you wrote:
>
><<Hi Jim,
>
>How about fall board to low in the installed position or glide bolt(s)
>
>adjusted to high.
>
>Doug Mahard>>
>
>Close Doug..but no cigar! :-)
>
>John Lillico wrote:
>"I suspect a fallboard misalignment.
>Is ther a prize for being right.... like free convention registration?
>John Lillico, RPT"
>
>Again close but no cigar for you either! :-)
>Your prize for being 'not correct' is that you get to pay in inflated
dollars
>to attend convention :-(
>
>Roger J. said:
>"Well Jim, you're never obvious with these teaser's"
>
>Well excuse me sire but I twied, welly I did!
>P.S. Your second guess is wrong also.
>
>Michael J. said:
> "Could it be that the key end felts are just glancing the damper levers"
>
> Could be Mike, but it ain't. ;-)
>
>David I. said:
>Jim,
>
>"How about the key strip...catching the key buttons or something..."
>
>Very 'general' answer and the closest one so far.
>
>
>I'll leave the question open till late this afternoon...for a hint refer
back
>to what I said originally, i.e. "The problem seemed to disappear with the
>action out of the piano, and before the cheek blocks and fallboard were
>reinstalled." To which I will add that when the fallboard was moved toward
>the closed position, the very tiniest bit, the sticking and clicking stopped.
> It sho nuf made me feel dull when I finally figured it out!!! :-)
>Jim Bryant (FL)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 13:39:42 EDT
>From: Wimblees@AOL.COM
>Subject: Re: Husband & Wife teams
>
>Hi, I happened to see your message. My husband gets on here a lot more than
>I do, so he will probably respond, too. We are a husband and wife team. I
>tune and do some minor repairs, and pitch-raising, but he does all tuning,
>repairing, regulating, estimates, etc. And he runs our piano store. He
does
>the entire gamut of "technician's" duties, whereas I only learned to tune.
I
>was never good at the mechanical parts of the job. I enjoy doing it this
way
>- - the only bad part is, if I run into a tech. problem I have to call Wim
to
>come to the house (school, church, bar) and fix it for me. This costs him
>some extra time. However, not every tuning has repairs involved, and he
>tries to screen them for me. So in the big picture, my tunings do save him
>time - and of course add some income to our family.
>
>We generally do not have enough tunings for both of us to stay busy full
>time, so I also teach piano lessons to beginners. This I can safely do,
>because I have a Master's degre in Voice and Piano Performance and Pedagogy
>with a strong knowledge of Theory. You do not need a degree in music, or
any
>performance background. You can learn to tune pianos if you have a decent
>ear and a lot of patience. The patience is the hardest part, I found! You
>will probably be better at the mechanical/technical stuff than I. Most
>people are! It was never my thing.
>
>Is that enough "sharing" to bore you? Hope you get a lot of encouraging
>responses. Oh - one of the nicest perks is that you work for (or with?) the
>sweetest boss, who will understand if you need a day off for your children's
>activities or illnesses. Also a "grand and upright" perk is that you can
>take the same vacations (if your boss is your spouse, he is not going to
deny
>you the right to take a vacation with him!) And you meet the nicest people,
>have coffee with them (they usually offer it) and get to see how they
>decorate their houses. Also I always make friends with the cat(s) or dog(s)
>because I am an incurable animal lover. These are all interesting and fun
>side benefits for me. Best of everything to you. Keep us posted as to how
>it goes!
>
>Tunefully yours,
>
>Jan Blees.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 18:12:17 +0100
>From: Kristinn Leifsson <istuner@islandia.is>
>Subject: Re: Goo
>
>At 11:19 24.5.2000 -0600, you wrote:
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Kristinn Leifsson <istuner@islandia.is>
>>
>>>Subject: Goo
>>
>>
>>>This piano had been standing in a mall for about
>>> ten months right in the middle of a fast food restaurant! That´s
>>disgusting!
>>
>>> People are stupid idiots!
>>>
>>> Kristinn Leifsson,
>>> Reykjavík, Iceland
>>
>>I'm sure you're referring to the "people" who placed the piano
>>in that environment??
>>
>>Bob
>>
>
>
>No, that was just a random psychotic episode.
>
>KL
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 13:15:20 -0500
>From: kam544@flash.net
>Subject: Re: Husband & Wife teams
>
>>One technician does not need the permission of another to start up in this
>>business. An existing technician does not own the market in a given area.
>>Newcomers are free to compete for their market share. Why wouldn't this
>>same reasoning apply to Ra Byn and Tara? Why can't they each be an
>>independent contractor with their own business?...>Stacy Adams
>
>Just one point of view on where this reasoning is not necessarily applicable:
>
>When two persons are joined at the hip, it goes so much deeper than being a
>newcomer or needing permission or competing, etc. One spouse, during the
>learning process can easily undermine the other's established business
>position with a careless, non-intentional act or by exercising a degree of
>lack of ability/understanding doing a job that causes some type of problem
>that can result in undesirable consequences. I've been there and don't
>intend to go again.
>
>Keith McGavern
>Registered Piano Technician
>Oklahoma Chapter 731
>Piano Technicians Guild
>USA
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 13:16:31 -0500
>From: "Ray T. Bentley" <Ray@Bentley.net>
>Subject: Re: Midnight Puzzler
>
>The nameboard felt is either a little too thick or out of position.
>
>Ray
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 13:27:44 -0500
>From: Conrad Hoffsommer <hoffsoco@martin.luther.edu>
>Subject: Re: Midnight Puzzler
>
>At 13:39 05/24/2000 EDT, you wrote:
>>
>
>Fuzzy, torn and or loose fallboard cloth strip snagging end of key covering
>- - sometimes.???
>
>
>
>Conrad Hoffsommer - mailto:hoffsoco@luther.edu
>- -Some people drink from the fountain of knowledge;
>- -Some just gargle; others just leave their gum in it.
>
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>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 12:34:02 -0700
>From: "Paul S. Larudee" <larudee@pacbell.net>
>Subject: Ed Foote's temperamental illustrations
>
>As others have noted previously, Ed Foote's class at last year's
>national PTG Convention was spectacular, and I have dragged his handout
>around for various reasons since then. I particularly liked the bar
>graph illustrations of comma distribution for the the temperaments,
>which show at a glance the characteristics of each.
>
>Problem is, I can't find the handout any more. Does anyone have his
>e-mail address? I checked the PTG Directory, but his e-mail address
>isn't there. Thanks. We have a chapter technical on temperaments
>coming up.
>
>Paul S. Larudee, R{T
>405 Vista Heights Rd.
>Richmond, CA 94805
>larudee@pacbell.net
>
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>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 15:45:12 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Mark Graham <magraham@bw.edu>
>Subject: Re: Husband & Wife teams
>
>I didn't read the original message about husband & wife teams, but
>consider this:
>
>What if Ra Byn and Tara actually like each other and would cooperate, and
>the more experienced would help the lesser-experienced, and even save her
>from situations where his expertise could do so (I think those are the
>gender roles here)? Tara could learn action work, which any competent
>person could do, and together they could do more than two people
>separately. It would take humility and flexibility.
>
>I know that's a funny concept of marriage, but it just could work.
>
>I know married couples who thrive on doing things together without
>competing, and I know others who do better by giving each other more
>space. Ra Byn and Tara could look at the patterns already present in their
>relationship and have some idea of how piano togetherness would go.
>
>Two separate, competing businesses and tax returns make no sense to me.
>
>Admittedly, I may have missed some vital info.
>
>Mark Graham
>(happily married for 23 years to someone who gives me LOTS of space and
>won't even play Monopoly with me let alone go into business)
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