>.. and Patrick, since aeronautical engineers cannot, can you prove that >bumblee bees fly? :) > >Carol Beigel They can now. It's a vortex thing that adds more lift than the "standard" theories allowed for. If I can find the recent magazine, I'll quote the source. I'd also like to see anything authoritative, rather than anecdotal, that makes a case for verdigris being mold. This has been discussed to death, but nobody seems to have any real data. Ron N
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