too much "pounding!"

[Charly Tuner]

His reasoning is that many concert pianists play with a lot of force, so the 
he (the tech) needs to strike the keys harder than the pianist plays, (while 
tuning) in order to make the tuning stand up to hard playing. I'm sure glad 
I'm NOT a Steinway tech!

Terry

>From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@jps.net>
>Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org
>To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
>Subject: RE: too much "pounding!"
>Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:38:51 -0800
>
>Now there's a guy that doesn't know how to manipulate a tuning hammer.
>
>David I.
>
>
>
>Here's the reply about "pounding" from our Steinway tech..."If you're not
>breaking strings, keys and/or strings (occasionally I'm sure he meant)than
>you're NOT tuning right".
>
>The former statement is referring to ONLY Steinway Grands.
>
>Terry
>
> >From: "John M. Formsma" <jformsma@dixie-net.com>
> >Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org
> >To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >Subject: RE: too much "pounding!"
> >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:19:25 -0600
> >
> >Marcel,
> >
> ><<The hardest part of tuning I find is the guessing concerning the 
>twisting
> >of the tuning pins. I find that Asian pianos in general have smaller 
>tuning
> >pins than american made pianos. I also wonder if the steel used for pins
> >might
> >be a little softer. On some instruments, I have a hard time turning the
> >pins.
> >Now don't get me wrong, I'm strong enough to turn them, but the pitch 
>will
> >move
> >" A LOT" before the pin actually turns in the block. For me this is the
> >hardest
> >thing to try to control. I wonder if there is a relationship between pin
> >size
> >+metal hardness and torque in the block. To me, softer or smaller pins
> >would
> >benefit less torque.>>
> >
> >I have been told that since the tuning pins are smaller (1/0), they are
> >more
> >prone to flagpole. Less diameter = more flex. I have the same problem 
>with
> >some of the Asian pianos I tune. Finding the right moves for these pianos
> >is
> >difficult, but I have resolved that I can only do my best. If I do my 
>best,
> >then I move on, and don't worry about inherent problems too much. For 
>these
> >pianos, I use a smooth method, and just wait for the pin to move the
> >tiniest
> >bit. After that, the string needs to be set, and on to the next one.
> >
> >John Formsma
> >Blue Mountain, MS
> >
>
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