help with broken tuning pin

[dale r fox]

Tony,  by all means try the second option first.  Pianotek sells a pin
remover of this type and it is _easy_ to use.  It threads onto the old
pin with left hand threads which are tapered (like a pipe thread).  When
it gets tight you just continue to turn it counter-clockwise and it take
the old pin out.  I _really_ hate the easy out method.  It is neither
easy nor usually do you achieve the "out" part.

Dale Fox

On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 13:20:15 +0100 "Tony Court"
<Tony_The_Tuner@nationwideisp.net> writes:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: DALE DAVIDSON <davidsonpianos@hotmail.com>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 12:01 PM
> Subject: help with broken tuning pin
> 
> 
> > Hello list,
> >
> > Yesterday I had my first(and hopefully last) experience with a 
> broken
> tuning
> > pin. An upright Knabe, broken at the becket hole on the pin 
> closest to the
> > pressure bar. The pin in question is very tight.
> > I've seen two different tools in supply house catologues: A simple 
> tap and
> > die, and something that has a reverse thread that looks like it 
> threads
> > itself onto the outer diameter of the broken pin. I have about 
> 3/8ths of
> an
> > inch of exposed pin to work with.
> > Any one out there had the pleasure of experiencing this?
> > I would appreciate any advice regarding type of tools used, any 
> particular
> > techniques or tricks that worked.
> >
> > Thank you in advance,
> >
> > Dale Davidson RPT
> > Ottawa, Ont., Canada
> >
> > 
>
________________________________________________________________________
> > >Hi Dale,
> It depends how much shoulder you've got left on the pin. the devices 
> that
> fit over the pin rely on having quite a good lump to get hold of, so 
> I
> prefer the other kind that you mention i.e the thing like a tap. 
> These are
> sold in UK as a small set of 4or 5 sizes called "eze outs", plus you 
> will
> need a tap wrench.I get these from engineering supply places, which 
> often
> stock many of the implements we use in the piano trade, but cheaper 
> than the
> piano supply houses. You could try this one in UK if you like:
> eng.supplies@virgin.net  They have been good to me!
> Also take some lubricant for the drill bit, tuning pins are v.tough, 
> and
> apply it to the drill bit. Keep the drill speed very moderate and 
> apply
> steady pressure to drill the hole. N>B take a centre punch and put a 
> good
> dent to start the drill or THE DRILL WILL WANDER! Once you have 
> produced a
> hole of sufficient depth and diameter, you can then insert the "eze 
> out" in
> anti clockwise direction.
> As the "eze out" gets a grip it will then start to bring the pin 
> out.
> If you can avoid using the smallest tool, so much the better, as the 
> small
> ones are inclined to break easily.
> On a more cheerful note, I have been tuning for 15 years( imperial 
> years
> that is) and it hasn't happened to me more than a couple of times!
> Good luck,
> Tony
> >
> 

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