> > > Any of you brave souls care to try and explain to this newbe tuner how you > determine that a piano is 16 cents flat or 44 cents flat etc. aurally? > > I have looked in every book I have and can't seem to find > it................. > > Terry Jack You can't determine cents by ear. It must be calculated. One beat either way of 440 is 3.9 or 4 cents. Cents is the measure of the difference as a ratio of two frequencies. 440 does not have a cents value. The cents between 440 and 220 (an octave) is 1200 cents. The cents difference between 220 and 110 also an octave is 1200 cents. Now for a quizz. The cents difference (roundedoff) between 220 and 221 is......... a. 4 cents b. 8 cents c. 2 cents d. none of the above...... The answer is B. 8 cents, 7.8 actually. Is that surprising? It was to me...Just remember that cents is an expression of the ratio of an interval. 221/220 is a larger interval than 441/440. It is twice as large, actually (as cents indicate) The beat rate though is the same. So If you miss 440 by 1 bps you are off 4 cents. If you miss 220 by 1 bps you are off nearly 8 cents. On the other hand if you miss A 1760 by one beat you are only off 1 cent. If you want to see if this trend continues get your calculator and enter 110/109 hit = press log and multiply by 3986. In words, the log of the ratio of a musical interval times 3986 gives cents. In math log(F/f)/log(2)*1200. =log(2/1)/log(2)*1200 This can be pasted into spread sheets. This should give a result of 1200. You might need an @ before log. Hmm Quatropro supplies it. Of course in place of 2/1 you put your own ratio, or two frequencies you want to know the cents difference of. If you need to know what the frequency is 4 cents sharper, use...F*2^(cents/1200) This pastes into a spread sheet. On a calculator do 4/1200 and store it. then clear and enter 2 , press [x^y], press MR, hit *, enter 440, and you should get 441.01..if you press = If you want the cents down, use the negative value of 4/1200---ric
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