Greg, You wrote: <<I wish I had the time to figure out how to use the office suites to do this stuff. I'm afraid it would simply take too much time to build.>> The office suites are fully capable of a great database. You just have to know how to make it work, and that takes precious time. After finding out that PTBiz was $300, I decided to take the time to figure MS Access out for myself. I am endeavoring to do tailor a database for my needs. I am not a programmer (not yet anyway), but will surely know more about databases after I study them. I have bought several books on Access and Visual Basic programming, both of which are needed in setting up a good database. I think PTBiz was primarily done using Access queries and wizards, but I can't tell for sure since all of the tables, forms, etc. are locked. My delving into Access will take much more than $300 in books and time, but I think it will be well worth it to satisfy my curiosity and my do-it-yourselfer bent. It's kinda like spending $1000 to save $300, but I'm going to do it anyway. I had thought that I could eventually sell what I develop, but that may be a ways down the road. I figure it will take me at least half a year, and maybe up to a year. Best regards, John Formsma Blue Mountain, MS
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