Refinishing with Water-Base

Farrell mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:15:18 -0500


Thanks for your reply Jon. I talked at length with Mark Ellis, Enduro
technical representative, and explained my procedures. I let the sprayed
finish cure/dry for three weeks with good air movement and 50% humidity
before wet sanding. He indicated that wet sanding after that length of cure
under those conditions should cause no problems. However, your point is well
taken - obviously something is going wrong - and I certainly don't know for
sure whether it is my procedures or the products I am using. Unfortunately,
after I spray on the Pianolac, I will be wet sanding with Arthur Grudco's
wet sanding oil - so a direct comparison will not be made. Well, strike
that. I will also paint a test panel with Pianolac and wet sand it with
water just to see if the Pianolac performs better than the Enduro - just for
the yahoo of it. I'll let ya know how it works out.

Terry Farrell
Piano Tuning & Service
Tampa, Florida
mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Page" <jonpage@mediaone.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Refinishing with Water-Base


> Terry,
> I think you neglected to mention the reason for breaching the layers on
your
> final rub. Were you not wet sanding the finish with water before the
finish
> developed full cure?
>
> I have found the water and sanding do not mix on a water-borne finish.
> Although it is not as extreme as wet sanding a lacquer finish with lacquer
> thinner
> it is still softening the finish and causing blotching.
>
> I had one product which actually lifted off in a sheet from sanding with
water
> even
> after three days drying. Three days is not full cure but the minimum
period
> before
> final rub.
>
> PianoLac is a great product developed by an actual, working, piano
refinisher.
> Just to touch a bit on the product's grain-filling sanding sealer, a
filler is
> still
> best to help avoid pulling-in over time. Filling the short-pores and pin
holes
> is
> where this material excels, deep pores should be filled with PianoLac
Grain
> Filler.
>
> Spray on
>
> Jon Page
>
>
> At 04:40 AM 02/29/2000 -0500, you wrote:
> >Dear List:
> >snip<
> >
> >In summary, I don't know if Enduro is any more problematic than any other
> >water-base paint at this point. The review/tests that appeared in a
recent
> >issue of Fine Woodworking Magazine indicated that it was superior to the
> >other six-or-so water-base paints they tried. I will have a definitive
> >opinion within 3 weeks whether I had better luck with Pianolac! I know I
> >won't have anything before your 8-day deadline. Let me know if you want
more
> >info after I have rubbed-out the Pianolac finish. Good luck!
> >
> >Terry Farrell
> >Piano Tuning & Service
> >Tampa, Florida
> >mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
> >
> Jon Page,   piano technician
> Harwich Port, Cape Cod, Mass.
> mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net
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>



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