The Plate

[Farrell]

Thanks for the tip Mark. I can deal with alcohol. I had not used shellac
before. Do you have a phone number or web site for Homestead Finishing. I
did a search on internet, but no luck. Thanks.

Terry Farrell
Piano Tuning & Service
Tampa, Florida
mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com

----- Original Message -----
From: <bases-loaded@juno.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: The Plate


> Terry -
>
> Have you tried using shellac?  It is not water-based, but denatured
> alcohol is really not very objectionable.  Shellac will take the powder
> just fine, but does tend to dry very quickly - a little too quickly to
> keep a good wet "edge".  Contact Homestead Finishing for their product
> called "Shellac-Wet", which is essentially a flow-out additive for
> shellac.  You can also order the shellac from them in flake form; I would
> recommend the white shellac or dewaxed extra pale for this application,
> spraying a couple passes using a 1 - 1 1/2 lb. cut.  After app. 2 hours
> dry time, lightly scuff and then you could top coat with Enduro's clear
> poly, which is what you are currently using, yes?
>
> One caveat.... when top coating with ANY poly over shellac, it MUST  BE
> DEWAXED SHELLAC, or you will have serious craters!  Both of the above
> grades I mentioned above are dewaxed.  I have sprayed many kinds of poly
> over dewaxed shellac literally hundreds of times with no adhesion
> problems whatsoever.
>
> Mark Potter
> bases-loaded@juno.com
>
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:23:56 -0500 "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> writes:
> > I had been using bronze powder mixed in clear water-base
> > polyurethane. I
> > tried, tried, & tried. It just gets too wierd. I finally got a
> > couple of
> > pretty good coats on just to watch it turn kinda darker (somewhat
> > black) in
> > some areas after several days. I guess the metal must react with the
> > water
> > in the water-base & oxidize. I can't stand the thought of spraying
> > solvent-based laquer. I also tried a can of spray paint - BAD, never
> > again.
> > I'm still looking for something that doesn't stink and I don't have
> > to use
> > nasty solvents to clean up with.
> >
> > Terry Farrell
> > Piano Tuning & Service
> > Tampa, Florida
> > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <bases-loaded@juno.com>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 7:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: The Plate
> >
> >
> > > If you have spray equipment, spray the plate with bronze powder
> > suspended
> > > in lacquer.  If there are fish eyes from contaminants, spray at
> > least one
> > > pass of a 1 lb. cut of shellac over the problem area before top
> > coating
> > > with the bronze colored lacquer.  Top the color coats with 1-2
> > coats of
> > > clear lacquer.  I like satin.
> > >
> > > If using spray cans, you may have better luck with a 'metallic
> > bronze' or
> > > 'metallic gold' enamel.  The lacquer in retail spray cans is
> > second rate,
> > > at best.  Again, shellac will provide a great barrier coat should
> > > adhesion problems from contaminants be present.
> > >
> > > Mark Potter
> > > bases-loaded@juno.com
> > >
> > > On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:48:31 -0500 "Farrell"
> > <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> > > writes:
> > > > When you find out what to spray it with, let me know. If you
> > need to
> > > > know
> > > > what not to spray it with, just drop me a note. I'm ready for
> > about
> > > > my 10th
> > > > coat of somethingorother on this plate - hopefully looking
> > better
> > > > than the
> > > > last 9.
> > > >
> > > > Terry Farrell
> > > > Piano Tuning & Service
> > > > Tampa, Florida
> > > > mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Martin Dubow" <tuner@mediaone.net>
> > > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 4:21 PM
> > > > Subject: The Plate
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Now that I've got all the strings off this piano, I'd like to
> > > > improve
> > > > > the appearance
> > > > > of the plate. What should I use to clean it with?  If I decide
> > to
> > > > spray
> > > > > it, what do I spray
> > > > > it with? Is there a gold paint that comes in a spray can?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Martin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>