Duo-Art

PAT A RALPH KENNETH.GERLER@prodigy.net
Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:52:38 -0600


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Jon,

Duo Arts in Grands are much alike.  It did save a lot of time just =
taking the left block, and brackets holding the spoolbox and motor and =
control levers loose and letting that all set on the keyframe as it was =
pulled out.  Only had to take the handles off the the controls in front =
of the keyboard on this George Steck VR Grand.  Plus the three blocks =
attached to the bottom of the keyframe after removing the lyre and one =
pnumatic mounted just below the one block.  Took my wife, Pat, and I =
about an hour on each the disassembly and assembly. =20

I was referred to this instrument after a tech that tunes and does minor =
repairs recommended me to this instrument.

It play OK before I started on it and played better after I finished.

Ken Gerler


---- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jon Page=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 8:04 AM
  Subject: Re: S&S Duo-Art


  Ric makes a good point. if you disconnect tubes which are brittle, =
they
  will break. If they are stuck and conformed to the fitting, they may =
not seal
  well when replaced.

  They will claim it played perfectly the last time they played it (5 to =
10 years ago)
  but now that you took it apart, it does not work as well, What did YOU =
do to it???
  They are easy to work on IF you know what you are doing (have a =
knowledge
  of player workings), a Nightmare if you don't.

  Have them play it, point out that it may require a player tech to =
attend to the
  leaks which may develop.

  This could be your baptism by fire.=20

  CYA,

  Jon Page

  At 08:57 PM 02/13/2000 -0600, you wrote:
  >
  >
  >----------
  >> From: Robert A. Anderson <fndango@azstarnet.com>
  >> To: pianotech@ptg.org
  >> Subject: S&S Duo-Art
  >> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2000 6:35 PM
  >>=20
  >> I have a new customer with a Duo-Art. I would like to get the
  >action out
  >> for some basic servicing.
  >> I'd appreciate knowing about any pitfalls waiting for me.
  >>=20
  >> Thanks,
  >>=20
  >> Bob Anderson
  >> Tucson, AZ
  >
  >You will need a Duo-Art specialist to assist you.   The major
  >pitfall is that the customer may claim it does not play the same as
  >when you "started removing things". The only servicing you can or
  >should do to this piano is tune it.  If you don't know how to
  >operate one I would suggest you have the client "play it" for you
  >before you do anything including tuning.   That way if it is not
  >functioning right, (but how would you know?) at least the client
  >won't blame you afterwards.    I am not suggesting player piano
  >owners are waiting for hapless piano tuners.  I am suggesting that
  >when removing a player action, if anything is weak and ready
  >to"break" it will when you try to. =20
  >       I am a player piano specialist, but not for Duo-Arts.  I would =
ask
  >the client who services their unit, and suggest that tech be the
  >one to remove it so  you can service what ever  player tech can't
  >do.  If they have not had a reproducer specialist look at their
  >playing mechanism or maintain it,  it may be old and falling apart,
  >and you will be glad not to make matters worse.        In Tuscon, =
there
  >should be members of  AMICA  (automatic musical instrument
  >collecters association) who can recommend the specialist you will
  >need to remove the player action, and more importantly put it back
  >in with all the tubes in the right places.   ---ric.
  >=20

  Jon Page,   piano technician
  Harwich Port, Cape Cod, Mass.
  mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=20
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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jon Page=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 8:04 AM
  Subject: Re: S&S Duo-Art


  Ric makes a good point. if you disconnect tubes which are brittle, =
they
  will break. If they are stuck and conformed to the fitting, they may =
not seal
  well when replaced.

  They will claim it played perfectly the last time they played it (5 to =
10 years ago)
  but now that you took it apart, it does not work as well, What did YOU =
do to it???
  They are easy to work on IF you know what you are doing (have a =
knowledge
  of player workings), a Nightmare if you don't.

  Have them play it, point out that it may require a player tech to =
attend to the
  leaks which may develop.

  This could be your baptism by fire.=20

  CYA,

  Jon Page

  At 08:57 PM 02/13/2000 -0600, you wrote:
  >
  >
  >----------
  >> From: Robert A. Anderson <fndango@azstarnet.com>
  >> To: pianotech@ptg.org
  >> Subject: S&S Duo-Art
  >> Date: Saturday, February 12, 2000 6:35 PM
  >>=20
  >> I have a new customer with a Duo-Art. I would like to get the
  >action out
  >> for some basic servicing.
  >> I'd appreciate knowing about any pitfalls waiting for me.
  >>=20
  >> Thanks,
  >>=20
  >> Bob Anderson
  >> Tucson, AZ
  >
  >You will need a Duo-Art specialist to assist you.   The major
  >pitfall is that the customer may claim it does not play the same as
  >when you "started removing things". The only servicing you can or
  >should do to this piano is tune it.  If you don't know how to
  >operate one I would suggest you have the client "play it" for you
  >before you do anything including tuning.   That way if it is not
  >functioning right, (but how would you know?) at least the client
  >won't blame you afterwards.    I am not suggesting player piano
  >owners are waiting for hapless piano tuners.  I am suggesting that
  >when removing a player action, if anything is weak and ready
  >to"break" it will when you try to. =20
  >       I am a player piano specialist, but not for Duo-Arts.  I would =
ask
  >the client who services their unit, and suggest that tech be the
  >one to remove it so  you can service what ever  player tech can't
  >do.  If they have not had a reproducer specialist look at their
  >playing mechanism or maintain it,  it may be old and falling apart,
  >and you will be glad not to make matters worse.        In Tuscon, =
there
  >should be members of  AMICA  (automatic musical instrument
  >collecters association) who can recommend the specialist you will
  >need to remove the player action, and more importantly put it back
  >in with all the tubes in the right places.   ---ric.
  >=20

  Jon Page,   piano technician
  Harwich Port, Cape Cod, Mass.
  mailto:jonpage@mediaone.net
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=20

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